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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:49 am
by RightorRight
Cicero76 wrote:lol @that judges status list presuming that the 1st and 11th circuits don't exist.
It only posted from judges from whom there was information.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 7:45 pm
by Anonymous User
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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:25 pm
by Anonymous User
Earliest feeders (usual suspects) should be filled by end of the week. This is the earliest we have ever seen the clerkship wave.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:13 am
by otherwise
Anonymous User wrote:Earliest feeders (usual suspects) should be filled by end of the week. This is the earliest we have ever seen the clerkship wave.
UChicago won't even have grades for 2 weeks... :shock:

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:42 pm
by AT9
Alright, rising 2L here with some dumb questions:

1) What's a feeder judge?

2) I'm top 5% at a 30's-40's school, small/mid sized market, will have LR, have ties in several small-mid sized markets, and am interning for a federal magistrate judge this summer in a neighboring district. What are my odds at getting a district or COA clerkship?

3) In light of the above, how do you develop an application strategy? I.e....Where should you apply? How do you match up with judges who generally align with your judicial philosophy (if that's even possible)? What's a reasonable number of applications?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:02 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Earliest feeders (usual suspects) should be filled by end of the week. This is the earliest we have ever seen the clerkship wave.
Are we just talking the "old guard" feeders like Garland, Wilkinson, Kavanaugh, Kozinski, etc., or does this include any of the newer feeders like Srinivasan and Watford?
AT9 wrote:Alright, rising 2L here with some dumb questions:

1) What's a feeder judge?

2) I'm top 5% at a 30's-40's school, small/mid sized market, will have LR, have ties in several small-mid sized markets, and am interning for a federal magistrate judge this summer in a neighboring district. What are my odds at getting a district or COA clerkship?

3) In light of the above, how do you develop an application strategy? I.e....Where should you apply? How do you match up with judges who generally align with your judicial philosophy (if that's even possible)? What's a reasonable number of applications?
I can't answer #2 or #3, but as for #1-a feeder judge is a judge whose clerks go on to clerk for the Supreme Court.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:11 pm
by swampman
AT9 wrote: 3) In light of the above, how do you develop an application strategy? I.e....Where should you apply? How do you match up with judges who generally align with your judicial philosophy (if that's even possible)? What's a reasonable number of applications?
Professors are your best resource (assuming your school doesn't have a competent clerkship office). You'll need to ask them for recommendations anyway, and they will probably have connections to judges in the region. Find a professor who shares your judicial philosophy and they'll know the relevant judges. Otherwise you can get an idea by which president appointed them.
My school limits us to around 100 applications.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:26 pm
by AT9
Thanks to both the above posters!

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:27 pm
by A. Nony Mouse
Honestly, I would not limit applications based on judicial philosophy, if by that you mean political stance. Maybe at the elite COA/feeder level. Most of what the average district court judge does is not at influenced by judicial philosophy. Much more significant to your experience is the judge's work ethic and expectations for clerks, and the culture in chambers.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:39 pm
by AT9
A. Nony Mouse wrote:Honestly, I would not limit applications based on judicial philosophy, if by that you mean political stance. Maybe at the elite COA/feeder level. Most of what the average district court judge does is not at influenced by judicial philosophy. Much more significant to your experience is the judge's work ethic and expectations for clerks, and the culture in chambers.
Sort of what I guessed. I can work with a judge that doesn't align with my political/judicial philosophy, I just prefer not to work with one that's at the extreme opposite.

Edit: How valuable are magistrate judge clerkships relative to district court judge clerkships?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:07 pm
by Anonymous User
Out of curiosity, how does a school like Uchicago (where grades come out so late) deal with the trend toward earlier and earlier hiring?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:41 pm
by Anonymous User
You dont. Part of the trend toward earlier hire is also the trend toward wanting people with experience. For example, right now a sizeable portion of SDNY is filled through 2017, or will be soon. Rising 2Ls then apply for 2018, which makes sure they have a year of experience before starting. Thats the new model (obviously a generalization)

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:13 pm
by Anonymous User
Judges hiring this early will be overwhelmingly taking HYS students.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:20 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:Earliest feeders (usual suspects) should be filled by end of the week.
Where are you getting this from? I've heard that a few are interviewing, but not that they're all filling up within the next week.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:29 pm
by Anonymous User
There was a flurry of interview offers last week. I've got a few lined up and I'm not HYS. Some feeders some not feeders. I think now is the time to get your apps out for COA.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:13 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:There was a flurry of interview offers last week. I've got a few lined up and I'm not HYS. Some feeders some not feeders. I think now is the time to get your apps out for COA.
Any 9th Circuit?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:30 pm
by Anonymous User
No 9th Circuit. All quiet on the western front. :(

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:55 pm
by Anonymous User
Anonymous User wrote:There was a flurry of interview offers last week. I've got a few lined up and I'm not HYS. Some feeders some not feeders. I think now is the time to get your apps out for COA.
What about the 4th?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:35 pm
by Anonymous User
I've heard of at least two 9th Circuit judges who are interviewing.

Any movement from DC that anyone knows of?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:55 pm
by Anonymous User
DC Cir. interviews and offers this week.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:07 pm
by laws6034
Movement from Moore (6th)? Either interviews or offers?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:07 pm
by Anonymous User
Can confirm DC Cir and 9th (less so) are moving on applicants
Are these interviews/offers going to rising 2Ls (hard to believe because it's prior to LR for atleast the T6)?

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:08 pm
by Anonymous User
laws6034 wrote:Movement from Moore (6th)? Either interviews or offers?
haven't heard of movement from Moore

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:57 pm
by Anonymous User
Flurry offers OP here.
Are these interviews/offers going to rising 2Ls (hard to believe because it's prior to LR for atleast the T6)?
I'm a rising 3L with a district court clerkship.

Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:16 pm
by Anonymous User
Reinhardt interview Thursday.