2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Emma. » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:50 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I've had multiple interviews recently and no responses (nothing "yes" or "no" yet). Why do they do this to us? just interview people in a confined time period....

Believe it or not, judges actually have better things to do than hire clerks. Interviews are time consuming and it isn't all that easy to fit them into a judge's busy schedule.


Students are busy too amd have to actually travel on their own dime to interviews. Also students have to do a balancing act because of all of the rules around accepting offers. Its not all that ridiculous to ask for a somewhat prompt response.


I understand your frustration, but no one forced you to apply. No judge is intentionally stringing applicants along. But they have more immediately pressing concerns than clerk hiring. I also think the importance to most judges of getting it right when they make hiring decisions leads them to take their time.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby CourCour » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:50 pm

I had a good experience in my clerkship application process. I just didn't like the tenure of the earlier comment. Its not unreasonable for a student to feel frustrated and its not unreasonable to expect judges to be considerate of students.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Emma. » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:17 pm

CourCour wrote:I had a good experience in my clerkship application process. I just didn't like the tenure of the earlier comment. Its not unreasonable for a student to feel frustrated and its not unreasonable to expect judges to be considerate of students.


Sure. But it is unreasonable to expect judges to rearrange their hiring practices just so applicants aren't waiting so long between the interview and hearing whether they are being offered a position.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby codyoneill » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:45 pm

Emma. wrote:
CourCour wrote:I had a good experience in my clerkship application process. I just didn't like the tenure of the earlier comment. Its not unreasonable for a student to feel frustrated and its not unreasonable to expect judges to be considerate of students.


Sure. But it is unreasonable to expect judges to rearrange their hiring practices just so applicants aren't waiting so long between the interview and hearing whether they are being offered a position.


My feeling on this discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:37 pm

Anyone hear back from raggi, Greenaway, or chin? Interviews or offers.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:20 pm

anyone hear back from daniels sdny?

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:51 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear back from raggi, Greenaway, or chin? Interviews or offers.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:52 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone hear back from raggi, Greenaway, or chin? Interviews or offers.


wait, Raggi is already interviewing? damn

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:01 pm

Also, the conventional wisdom is to not bother chambers, either directly or through a recommend, even if the judge is taking a really long time post-interview to decide, correct?

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:29 pm

Anyone hear from White (6th Cir)?

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:17 pm

Sorry to post another one of these, but has anyone heard from Judge Murguia (9th Cir)? She stopped accepting apps on OSCAR about two weeks ago.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:47 pm

I have not heard anything from Murguia.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:39 pm

Anyone heard from Skykes, Niemeyer, Hartz, Anderson, Bybee, Colloton, Niemeyer, Sutton, or Tymkovich? MVP, applying everywhere and just getting going. So wanted to check if some of these people on Oscar are already finished.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:02 am

Sutton's been done for months.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:28 pm

Niemeyer is also done.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby lawman84 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:12 am

How often do students at non-t14 schools get clerkships?(Fed CoA or District) I am just starting the process but I'm kind of worried that I'm just pissing into the wind here.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:24 am

Re: Murguia - know of several interviews, no indication on offers to any.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby FlyoverDiet » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:45 am

lawman84 wrote:How often do students at non-t14 schools get clerkships?(Fed CoA or District) I am just starting the process but I'm kind of worried that I'm just pissing into the wind here.


Not a great answer for you, but it depends on the school and your grades. Some non-T14 schools (think Texas, Vanderbilt, etc.), do pretty well in terms of clerkship placement. And even schools outside of the Top 20 can do OK in their home districts/circuits. I'd need more information to give you a better answer.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:16 am

lawman84 wrote:How often do students at non-t14 schools get clerkships?(Fed CoA or District) I am just starting the process but I'm kind of worried that I'm just pissing into the wind here.


There are people from my class doing federal district court clerk ships and CoA outside of our circuit and inside of our circuit. So it depends on the candidate, but as a non-t14 student the hardest thing is getting your materials (and then yourself) in front of the judge.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby jbagelboy » Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:59 am

lawman84 wrote:How often do students at non-t14 schools get clerkships?(Fed CoA or District) I am just starting the process but I'm kind of worried that I'm just pissing into the wind here.


The strong regional schools, e.g. State flagships, that place well into their smaller markets tend to do pretty well for their top students each year. Consider 'Bama law or UGA, for example, which place 8-10% of their grads into art III directly from law school over the past couple years. Of course schools like Texas and Vanderbilt do well. Now, mind you that these graduates are overwhelmingly clerking in their local districts, not in DC/NY/CA. Your chances at a federal clerkship in the most desirable locations go down considerably from a regional school since you're competing against all the T14 students with strong credentials.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby lawman84 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:18 pm

Thanks guys. I go to a T1 but I think the clerkship numbers are pretty low. Can't hurt to try I guess because my grades aren't an issue. I just feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. :lol:

Supposed to talk with an OCS member about it on Monday. Hopefully it'll help.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:14 pm

0/5 for COA interview success rate. This process is soooo fun

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby grand inquisitor » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:0/5 for COA interview success rate. This process is soooo fun

you are doing a lot right in life to get through so many doors. it sucks but just keep hustling.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:50 pm

grand inquisitor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:0/5 for COA interview success rate. This process is soooo fun

you are doing a lot right in life to get through so many doors. it sucks but just keep hustling.


seriously. there are so few law students even from top schools that actually get any COA interview, not to mention 3 or 5.

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Re: 2017-2018 Clerkship Application Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:53 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
grand inquisitor wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:0/5 for COA interview success rate. This process is soooo fun

you are doing a lot right in life to get through so many doors. it sucks but just keep hustling.


seriously. there are so few law students even from top schools that actually get any COA interview, not to mention 3 or 5.


Yeah I understand that fully, and it's nice, but at the end of the day having interviews is nothing more than a warm fuzzy to make myself feel better while I'm in the same boat as everyone else who isn't clerking...




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