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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby whereskyle » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:50 am

Thanks, A. Nony Mouse

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:02 pm

If I will be 3 years out of law school by the time I clerk in EDNY, any idea what that is on the GS pay scale? I am seeing conflicting info!

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby anon sequitur » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:14 pm

you are eligible for gs-14 after three years of post-grad legal experience. However, judges are limited to one gs-14 clerk at a time (usually a career clerk, but not necessarily). If your judge already has a gs-14 clerk, they most they can give you is gs-13. I think, but I'm not sure, that you have to start at step 1.

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:59 pm

anon sequitur wrote:you are eligible for gs-14 after three years of post-grad legal experience. However, judges are limited to one gs-14 clerk at a time (usually a career clerk, but not necessarily). If your judge already has a gs-14 clerk, they most they can give you is gs-13. I think, but I'm not sure, that you have to start at step 1.



I don't believe that is correct. Law clerks are on the JSP scale and to get JSP-14 you need two years of federal judiciary service in addition to three years of post-JD work. You'll be a JSP-13

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Quichelorraine » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:01 pm

anon sequitur wrote:you are eligible for gs-14 after three years of post-grad legal experience. However, judges are limited to one gs-14 clerk at a time (usually a career clerk, but not necessarily). If your judge already has a gs-14 clerk, they most they can give you is gs-13. I think, but I'm not sure, that you have to start at step 1.


You won't be on the GS payscale; you're on the JSP payscale. Different beast.

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:36 pm

He doesn’t have a career clerk, so it’s possible that I’d get gs-14, then?!

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:37 pm

He doesn’t have a career clerk, so it’s possible that I’d get gs-14, then?!

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:He doesn’t have a career clerk, so it’s possible that I’d get gs-14, then?!



Sorry, I meant JSP, but 13 and 14 is very different so wondering which it is. I’m trying to buy a house. :)

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby ExperssioUnius » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:40 pm

You can only get JSP-14 if you have at least two years of service within the federal judiciary.

Here is a link to the overview on the rules
https://oscar.uscourts.gov/qualificatio ... y_benefits

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:40 pm

So that means even if I have 3 years of experience, I can’t be JPS 14?

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:29 pm

Correct. Unless two of your three years of experience are with the federal judiciary, you cannot get JSP 14.

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby anon sequitur » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
anon sequitur wrote:you are eligible for gs-14 after three years of post-grad legal experience. However, judges are limited to one gs-14 clerk at a time (usually a career clerk, but not necessarily). If your judge already has a gs-14 clerk, they most they can give you is gs-13. I think, but I'm not sure, that you have to start at step 1.



I don't believe that is correct. Law clerks are on the JSP scale and to get JSP-14 you need two years of federal judiciary service in addition to three years of post-JD work. You'll be a JSP-13


Ah yeah, I forgot about the two years of fed judiciary service you need for jsp-14. Though to be fair, jsp and gs scales are identical in terms of pay, they're just different letters.

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby fozzie » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:15 am

How broad a category is "legal work experience"? I can't seem to find a definition. Is it up to the judge to decide? In my case, I'm doing a one-year academic fellowship after graduation (think Bigelow or Climenko or the like), then clerking. I wasn't in a rush to take the bar, but if bar + fellowship bump me up to JS12 to start, I'd have to rethink things.

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Re: Law Clerk Salary

Postby anon sequitur » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:22 am

The below is from Oscar. Looks like it's the judge's call. I personally came from a fellowship with a federal agency and they gave me jsp-12 as soon as I was eligible without any questions.

The hiring judge, as the appointing authority, assigns a selectee's grade and step, and thus sets the salary, at the time of appointment. A law clerk’s salary depends upon legal work experience subsequent to graduation from law school, bar membership, and applicable locality pay adjustments:

JSP-11, step 1 – Law school graduates with academic excellence and no legal work experience.
JSP-12, step 1 – One or more years of post-graduate legal work experience and bar membership of a state, territory, or federal court of general jurisdiction.



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