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Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:48 am

After you submit how soon are apps likely to be reviewed? Do judges get emails as they come in or do they have to log in to review? I'm curious about how things work behind the scenes. Thank you!

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Re: Oscar

Postby r6_philly » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:52 am

Anonymous User wrote:After you submit how soon are apps likely to be reviewed? Do judges get emails as they come in or do they have to log in to review? I'm curious about how things work behind the scenes. Thank you!


They won't release the app until the stated plan date. But they may be changing it soon to deal with all the off plan judges.

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:58 am

I thought Oscar only holds applications for current students. What about graduates?

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Re: Oscar

Postby r6_philly » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:I thought Oscar only holds applications for current students. What about graduates?


You are right. They only hold apps for rising 3Ls for now. Sorry, stuck in my student mode.

The system sends notifications when new apps are available if the option is turned on. They then log in to view the apps. Your app should be available to view as soon as you submit it if you are a 3L or alum.

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:28 pm

Thank you!

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:57 pm

How long is the average turn around for grads?

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Re: Oscar

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:42 am

Impossible to say. It totally depends on the judge. Some judges review applications as soon as they come in, interview right away, and hire the first person they like; some wait to get some kind of critical mass of applicants and then interview/decide.

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:28 am

Say a judge has multiple application postings on Oscar. What is the protocol? Do you only apply for one? What about when they have 2 years (say 2014 and 2015). Is is proper to simply state on the 2014 cover letter that you are interested in both or should you submit applications to each? Thanks!

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:21 pm

Is Oscar down for judges too? I thought originally it was supposed to be open to them, but now it looks like it is closed to everyone.

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Re: Oscar

Postby r6_philly » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:30 am

Anonymous User wrote:Is Oscar down for judges too? I thought originally it was supposed to be open to them, but now it looks like it is closed to everyone.


I think it's closed to everyone, although they can go back in a couple of days earlier.

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:16 pm

Update: Oscar posted a new blog. Applicants will be limited to 100 applications on a rolling basis.

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Re: Oscar

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Update: Oscar posted a new blog. Applicants will be limited to 100 applications on a rolling basis.

Well, that's just another stroke in the death knell of OSCAR/the plan - everyone will just go back to applying outside of OSCAR.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ph14 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:53 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Update: Oscar posted a new blog. Applicants will be limited to 100 applications on a rolling basis.

Well, that's just another stroke in the death knell of OSCAR/the plan - everyone will just go back to applying outside of OSCAR.


OSCAR is such a joke. Here's how to do it: Have OSCAR (but have the website not be so buggy and difficult) and then (1) let anyone apply at anytime, no limitations (2) upload your transcript instead of manually entering all your grades.

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Re: Oscar

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:59 pm

I know judges like OSCAR, because it's easier for them to weed candidates out and reject them with a touch of a button. Which sort of sucks for applicants. :evil: And yeah, the transcript function is really weird - I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea.

I do see that OSCAR now indicates whether a judge identifies as following the plan or not, though (I still get alerts for new clerkships in certain locations because I've been too lazy to cancel it), and that seems potentially pretty helpful. Of course, judges have to hire through OSCAR in the first place for it to really help.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ph14 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:02 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:I know judges like OSCAR, because it's easier for them to weed candidates out and reject them with a touch of a button. Which sort of sucks for applicants. :evil: And yeah, the transcript function is really weird - I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea.

I do see that OSCAR now indicates whether a judge identifies as following the plan or not, though (I still get alerts for new clerkships in certain locations because I've been too lazy to cancel it), and that seems potentially pretty helpful. Of course, judges have to hire through OSCAR in the first place for it to really help.


Can you log onto OSCAR? Mine says down until the 12th.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ph14 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:04 pm

Wow,at https://oscar.uscourts.gov/online_by_circuit you can see statistics by circuit. It shows number of positions and number of applications.

For example, for 13 D.C. Cir. positions, there were 9,433 applications.
For 35 2d. Cir. positions, there were 10,022 applications.
For 56 9th Cir. positions, there were 19,101 applications.

And this is just on OSCAR.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:10 pm

OSCAR is now available to judges...it will be reopened to everyone on the 12th.

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Re: Oscar

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:02 pm

ph14 wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:I know judges like OSCAR, because it's easier for them to weed candidates out and reject them with a touch of a button. Which sort of sucks for applicants. :evil: And yeah, the transcript function is really weird - I don't know why anyone thought that was a good idea.

I do see that OSCAR now indicates whether a judge identifies as following the plan or not, though (I still get alerts for new clerkships in certain locations because I've been too lazy to cancel it), and that seems potentially pretty helpful. Of course, judges have to hire through OSCAR in the first place for it to really help.


Can you log onto OSCAR? Mine says down until the 12th.

No, but the clerkship alerts come via e-mail and I got one today (or yesterday) despite OSCAR being down.

ETA: The map with the number of applications is horrifying. (There's one for district courts, too.) Holy CRAP.

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:51 pm

Using thee Oscar stats,

DC Cir is most competitive, with 725 applicants per judge, 1st Cir is next with 410 per judge.

In a statistical oddity (or the data is corrupt) 9th and 8th cir are next have excatly the same number of applicants/judge with 341

6th cir is least competitive.

I would assume that feeder judges get the disproportionate number of applications in each circuit.


#J Cir #app #app/judge
9 1 3695 410.000000000
35 2 10022 286.000000000
25 3 6726 269.000000000
7 4 1983 283.000000000
32 5 6418 200.000000000
18 6 2789 154.000000000
11 7 2450 222.000000000
14 8 4774 341.000000000
56 9 19101 341.000000000
12 10 2483 206.000000000
14 11 3540 252.000000000
17 FED 4047 238.000000000
13 DC 9433 725.000000000


Yes waaay too much time on my hands

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Re: Oscar

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Using thee Oscar stats,

DC Cir is most competitive, with 725 applicants per judge, 1st Cir is next with 410 per judge.

In a statistical oddity (or the data is corrupt) 9th and 8th cir are next have excatly the same number of applicants/judge with 341

6th cir is least competitive.

I would assume that feeder judges get the disproportionate number of applications in each circuit.


#J Cir #app #app/judge
9 1 3695 410.000000000
35 2 10022 286.000000000
25 3 6726 269.000000000
7 4 1983 283.000000000
32 5 6418 200.000000000
18 6 2789 154.000000000
11 7 2450 222.000000000
14 8 4774 341.000000000
56 9 19101 341.000000000
12 10 2483 206.000000000
14 11 3540 252.000000000
17 FED 4047 238.000000000
13 DC 9433 725.000000000


Yes waaay too much time on my hands


That's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Oscar

Postby Citizen Genet » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:57 pm

Note that those numbers are just the OSCAR applications. They don't include individuals who submitted paper applications or via email.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ph14 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:00 pm

Citizen Genet wrote:Note that those numbers are just the OSCAR applications. They don't include individuals who submitted paper applications or via email.


Are paper applications more common? How do you cull through all those applications? I'd imagine it would be difficult to review all those applications.

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Re: Oscar

Postby quiver » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:03 pm

ph14 wrote:OSCAR is such a joke. Here's how to do it: Have OSCAR (but have the website not be so buggy and difficult) and then (1) let anyone apply at anytime, no limitations (2) upload your transcript instead of manually entering all your grades.
Also, (3) make rec letters work like they did for LSAC (send them in once and simply check boxes for each app) so that recommenders don't have to manually upload a rec for every app and applicants don't have to wait for them to do so.

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Re: Oscar

Postby ph14 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:08 pm

quiver wrote:
ph14 wrote:OSCAR is such a joke. Here's how to do it: Have OSCAR (but have the website not be so buggy and difficult) and then (1) let anyone apply at anytime, no limitations (2) upload your transcript instead of manually entering all your grades.
Also, (3) make rec letters work like they did for LSAC (send them in once and simply check boxes for each app) so that recommenders don't have to manually upload a rec for every app and applicants don't have to wait for them to do so.


Wow, that's insane. I haven't applied through OSCAR yet since i'm a 2L but that seems like a huge pain.

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Re: Oscar

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:36 pm

quiver wrote:
ph14 wrote:OSCAR is such a joke. Here's how to do it: Have OSCAR (but have the website not be so buggy and difficult) and then (1) let anyone apply at anytime, no limitations (2) upload your transcript instead of manually entering all your grades.
Also, (3) make rec letters work like they did for LSAC (send them in once and simply check boxes for each app) so that recommenders don't have to manually upload a rec for every app and applicants don't have to wait for them to do so.

Oh, god, yes, exactly - this is the STUPIDEST part of OSCAR.




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