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Pryor has already hired for 19-20, although unsure if full or not.
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Can anyone confirm Jordan has interviewed? What about offers?
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I am also unsure if he's full.Anonymous User wrote:Pryor has already hired for 19-20, although unsure if full or not.
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I know that E. Carnes has filled at least one spot for 2019.
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Both Pryors have filled at least one 2019 spot.lavarman84 wrote:I am also unsure if he's full.Anonymous User wrote:Pryor has already hired for 19-20, although unsure if full or not.
Martin has done some interviewing as well.
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Yes to both; at least one offer for 2019Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone confirm Jordan has interviewed? What about offers?
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Re: intel on Jordan, can you please pm me?Anonymous User wrote:Yes to both; at least one offer for 2019Anonymous User wrote:Can anyone confirm Jordan has interviewed? What about offers?
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According to OSCAR for William Pryor:
"The judge has already hired for the 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 terms."
So I assume he's all full for 2019-2020?
"The judge has already hired for the 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 terms."
So I assume he's all full for 2019-2020?
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Yep. I thought I had read that on OSCAR, but I couldn't remember for sure.Anonymous User wrote:According to OSCAR for William Pryor:
"The judge has already hired for the 2017-18, 2018-19, 2019-20 terms."
So I assume he's all full for 2019-2020?
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Thank you for clarifying!lavarman84 wrote:As far as I know, W. Pryor has already hired for 2019-20. Someone also said that Jordan has begun hiring for 2019-20. I don't know if that's true (or if they meant Kent Jordan). Beyond that, I don't think anyone else has. I expect a few judges will open up reasonably soon (possibly including Ed Carnes).
The 11th Circuit, on average, tends to hire later, so there hasn't been much movement yet for 2019-20.
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Agree that CA11 moves slower than other circuits, but it's wrong to suggest hiring season hasn't begun yet. More than half the circuit has begun hiring/interviewing for 2019 (e.g., Jordan, Rosenbaum, Martin, Tjoflat, etc.).schwarz_zu_blau wrote:Thank you for clarifying!lavarman84 wrote:As far as I know, W. Pryor has already hired for 2019-20. Someone also said that Jordan has begun hiring for 2019-20. I don't know if that's true (or if they meant Kent Jordan). Beyond that, I don't think anyone else has. I expect a few judges will open up reasonably soon (possibly including Ed Carnes).
The 11th Circuit, on average, tends to hire later, so there hasn't been much movement yet for 2019-20.
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I'm surprised to hear this, but I'm sure you have more info than I do.wwwcol wrote:Agree that CA11 moves slower than other circuits, but it's wrong to suggest hiring season hasn't begun yet. More than half the circuit has begun hiring/interviewing for 2019 (e.g., Jordan, Rosenbaum, Martin, Tjoflat, etc.).schwarz_zu_blau wrote:Thank you for clarifying!lavarman84 wrote:As far as I know, W. Pryor has already hired for 2019-20. Someone also said that Jordan has begun hiring for 2019-20. I don't know if that's true (or if they meant Kent Jordan). Beyond that, I don't think anyone else has. I expect a few judges will open up reasonably soon (possibly including Ed Carnes).
The 11th Circuit, on average, tends to hire later, so there hasn't been much movement yet for 2019-20.
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Is Judge Hull actually still hiring for 17-18? It says there is one open position on OSCAR.
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Any updates?
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what kind of updates are you looking for?Anonymous User wrote:Any updates?
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No Eleventh Circuit judges have posted anything regarding 2019-2020 on OSCAR. From here it seems that several are hiring. Also, most of the Eleventh Circuit judges don't have any information on what to include in an application packet (number of LORs, WSs, etc.).
I want to begin applying but am not sure what I should do. Should I only apply to those judges who I know what they want in terms of application packet. Should apply to everyone (except Hull, because he only hires a year out--I believe). Any advice is helpful!
For example, Judge A. Jordan does not have any information on OSCAR (or anywhere else accessible from what I can gather) regarding what to include in an application packet or whether he is hiring. But according to this forum he has already hired for 2019-2020. Should I just send an application packet anyway with the typical information?
As a side note, why would a judge do this if she or he is hiring? Seems like a lot of inside baseball. Why limit the number of applicants and possibly miss out on one (or two) who would be a better fit than the applicants who are in the know?
Any insight is appreciated! I've contacted my schools clerkship advisor but he is notoriously unhelpful. Thanks!!
I want to begin applying but am not sure what I should do. Should I only apply to those judges who I know what they want in terms of application packet. Should apply to everyone (except Hull, because he only hires a year out--I believe). Any advice is helpful!
For example, Judge A. Jordan does not have any information on OSCAR (or anywhere else accessible from what I can gather) regarding what to include in an application packet or whether he is hiring. But according to this forum he has already hired for 2019-2020. Should I just send an application packet anyway with the typical information?
As a side note, why would a judge do this if she or he is hiring? Seems like a lot of inside baseball. Why limit the number of applicants and possibly miss out on one (or two) who would be a better fit than the applicants who are in the know?
Any insight is appreciated! I've contacted my schools clerkship advisor but he is notoriously unhelpful. Thanks!!
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Call the chambers of each judge who isn't on OSCAR and inquire into this information. As far as I know, W. Pryor is the only one full for 2019-20.Anonymous User wrote:No Eleventh Circuit judges have posted anything regarding 2019-2020 on OSCAR. From here it seems that several are hiring. Also, most of the Eleventh Circuit judges don't have any information on what to include in an application packet (number of LORs, WSs, etc.).
I want to begin applying but am not sure what I should do. Should I only apply to those judges who I know what they want in terms of application packet. Should apply to everyone (except Hull, because he only hires a year out--I believe). Any advice is helpful!
For example, Judge A. Jordan does not have any information on OSCAR (or anywhere else accessible from what I can gather) regarding what to include in an application packet or whether he is hiring. But according to this forum he has already hired for 2019-2020. Should I just send an application packet anyway with the typical information?
As a side note, why would a judge do this if she or he is hiring? Seems like a lot of inside baseball. Why limit the number of applicants and possibly miss out on one (or two) who would be a better fit than the applicants who are in the know?
Any insight is appreciated! I've contacted my schools clerkship advisor but he is notoriously unhelpful. Thanks!!
P.S. Judge Hull is a woman.(It surprised me too because of her using the name Frank)
As for why they do it, I doubt they're worried about missing out on people. I'm sure they get plenty of qualified applicants.
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It's also reported that Judge Hull is taking senior status. She tends to hire closer to the start date of the clerkship.lavarman84 wrote:Call the chambers of each judge who isn't on OSCAR and inquire into this information. As far as I know, W. Pryor is the only one full for 2019-20.Anonymous User wrote:No Eleventh Circuit judges have posted anything regarding 2019-2020 on OSCAR. From here it seems that several are hiring. Also, most of the Eleventh Circuit judges don't have any information on what to include in an application packet (number of LORs, WSs, etc.).
I want to begin applying but am not sure what I should do. Should I only apply to those judges who I know what they want in terms of application packet. Should apply to everyone (except Hull, because he only hires a year out--I believe). Any advice is helpful!
For example, Judge A. Jordan does not have any information on OSCAR (or anywhere else accessible from what I can gather) regarding what to include in an application packet or whether he is hiring. But according to this forum he has already hired for 2019-2020. Should I just send an application packet anyway with the typical information?
As a side note, why would a judge do this if she or he is hiring? Seems like a lot of inside baseball. Why limit the number of applicants and possibly miss out on one (or two) who would be a better fit than the applicants who are in the know?
Any insight is appreciated! I've contacted my schools clerkship advisor but he is notoriously unhelpful. Thanks!!
P.S. Judge Hull is a woman.(It surprised me too because of her using the name Frank)
As for why they do it, I doubt they're worried about missing out on people. I'm sure they get plenty of qualified applicants.
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If you don't know and can't reasonably find out a judge's hiring timeline (usually you can-just call chambers and ask), you might as well send an application with the usual items (cover letter, one-page resume, transcript, writing sample around 10-15 pages, and three LORs). The worst outcome is that you're not hired (i.e. the same outcome if you never applied).Anonymous User wrote:No Eleventh Circuit judges have posted anything regarding 2019-2020 on OSCAR. From here it seems that several are hiring. Also, most of the Eleventh Circuit judges don't have any information on what to include in an application packet (number of LORs, WSs, etc.).
I want to begin applying but am not sure what I should do. Should I only apply to those judges who I know what they want in terms of application packet. Should apply to everyone (except Hull, because he only hires a year out--I believe). Any advice is helpful!
For example, Judge A. Jordan does not have any information on OSCAR (or anywhere else accessible from what I can gather) regarding what to include in an application packet or whether he is hiring. But according to this forum he has already hired for 2019-2020. Should I just send an application packet anyway with the typical information?
As a side note, why would a judge do this if she or he is hiring? Seems like a lot of inside baseball. Why limit the number of applicants and possibly miss out on one (or two) who would be a better fit than the applicants who are in the know?
Any insight is appreciated! I've contacted my schools clerkship advisor but he is notoriously unhelpful. Thanks!!
As lavarman notes, there is no shortage of quality applicants. If you search around this forum, you'll find a thread in which clerks described the typical number of applications. District courts in tertiary markets and without OSCAR posts often get several hundred applications. You can imagine how many applications a circuit judge gets.
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Thanks y'all!!!
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Any sense of when Newsom will begin soliciting apps?
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I have no inside info, but common sense suggests the timeline will vary depending on the term in which you're interested. If you want to clerk in 2017, ie next month, presumably you'll want to get your app in immediately after confirmation. If you're a law student thinking about 2018 or 2019, youll probably have several weeks (or more).Anonymous User wrote:Any sense of when Newsom will begin soliciting apps?
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OSCAR still shows E. Carnes with a vacancy for 2018. Anyone know if that's accurate?
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Does anyone have any updates on Newsom? Is it too late to send him an application for the 2017 year?
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