Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

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Re: Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

Postby legalese_retard » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:35 am

Anonymous User wrote:I'm really hoping that if I got some wonky info and it is too early for the vast majority of firms, they'll just stash my info away and lump it in with the other clerk apps coming in later at whatever might be their preferred time. If not, I guess I could always do a mass re-send of the same thing 5-6 months from now, but it occurs to me that going that route might be a little gauche if they remember that I'd already sent everything before.


I emailed the recruiters at all of the major firms I was interested and asked them when I should apply. Just send them something along the lines of:

"I am currently clerking for a federal district court judge and my term ends in August 2014. I would like to join your firm at the conclusion of my clerkship. When should I submit my application materials?"

I sent something very similar and all the firms replied very promptly. The vast majority of them said early Spring is the optimal time to apply.

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Re: Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:31 am

What about looking for positions in non-litigation practice groups? How flexible have firms been if you don't want to commit to litigation?

I'm concerned that taking a litigation job is going to pigeonhole me for the rest of my career. My experience doing a SSC clerkship has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure I want to do lit for the rest of my life. Doing trials doesn't really interest me. I enjoy the aspect of the job that involves thinking dynamically about what the law should be, especially the broader implications of a rule or holding. That doesn't appear to be the focus of what litigants are doing, even at the appellate level.

I know it's tough to get anything right now, so if my only prospects to make decent $ are in litigation I might just have to take it.

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Re: Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What about looking for positions in non-litigation practice groups? How flexible have firms been if you don't want to commit to litigation?

I'm concerned that taking a litigation job is going to pigeonhole me for the rest of my career. My experience doing a SSC clerkship has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure I want to do lit for the rest of my life. Doing trials doesn't really interest me. I enjoy the aspect of the job that involves thinking dynamically about what the law should be, especially the broader implications of a rule or holding. That doesn't appear to be the focus of what litigants are doing, even at the appellate level.

I know it's tough to get anything right now, so if my only prospects to make decent $ are in litigation I might just have to take it.

I mean this in a nice way, but what practice groups do you think involve this kind of work (besides being a clerk/judge)? I mean, I would imagine there's legislative work out there that might involve this, but that's not something firms do.

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Re: Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:34 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What about looking for positions in non-litigation practice groups? How flexible have firms been if you don't want to commit to litigation?

I'm concerned that taking a litigation job is going to pigeonhole me for the rest of my career. My experience doing a SSC clerkship has been amazing, but I'm not quite sure I want to do lit for the rest of my life. Doing trials doesn't really interest me. I enjoy the aspect of the job that involves thinking dynamically about what the law should be, especially the broader implications of a rule or holding. That doesn't appear to be the focus of what litigants are doing, even at the appellate level.

I know it's tough to get anything right now, so if my only prospects to make decent $ are in litigation I might just have to take it.

I mean this in a nice way, but what practice groups do you think involve this kind of work (besides being a clerk/judge)? I mean, I would imagine there's legislative work out there that might involve this, but that's not something firms do.



I think my original statement was broad and unclear. Generally, the aspects of my current job I like best are being an advisor rather than an advocate. Regulatory practice groups seem to be the most like what I want, like DPW or S+Cs Financial Institutions Group or similar groups in DC. A regulatory group might be more likely to hire me (since we do review agency regulations even if they aren't dealing with federal law) as opposed to antitrust and bankruptcy which would probably only hire federal clerks.

Obviously, at a firm nobody's going to be asking me to do anything like what I do now for many years. But I'm also considering exit options. There seems to be a wider range of stuff you can do from a non-litigation group, like going into consulting or industry, whereas being a good litigator just means more options within litigation, like becoming a prosecutor or plaintiff's side attorney.

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Re: Clerk job hunting thread 2012/2013

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:59 pm

Ah, that makes lots of sense. Sorry that I don't have any specific advice (not going to a firm), I just wasn't sure what you were asking.




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