Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2016)

What would it take to make you drop out after 1L?

If I am not in the top 1/3
7
9%
If I am not at or above median
14
18%
If I am in the bottom third
15
19%
If I am in the bottom quarter
11
14%
If I am in the bottom 10%
9
12%
If I am as low as possible without flunking out
7
9%
NEVER GONNA LEAVE UNLESS THEY KICK ME OUT
14
18%
 
Total votes: 77

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shifty_eyed
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Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shifty_eyed » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:38 am

I am referring to ACADEMIC conditions, rather than if you find out you hate law school or have a medical emergency and need longterm treatment, etc.

I think this something we should all consider BEFORE we get into massive debt and fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy.

I know some of this may depend on scholarship stipulations or what school you end up going to. I know if I went to Yale, I'd stick it out no matter what. BUT I want you to answer with your current feelings on the school you plan on attending now.

I'm interested in hearing your reasoning for your poll answer too!

:)

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby gaud » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:40 am

Never. I'm determined to be miserable.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shifty_eyed » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:41 am

gaud wrote:Never. I'm determined to be miserable.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

But srsly?

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby gaud » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am

Probably bottom 10%. Getting a job from my school is more about hustle than grades.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am

Thinking about this makes me very unhappy.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shntn » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:43 am

Well I don't have a school I'm planning to attend just yet, but if I were below median at any of them, I'd be very concerned.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:44 am

If i can't make median my 1L...then better to drop out and cut my losses. None of the schools i'm willing to go to will offer me viable job prospects if I'm lower than median..

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby Law_Prospect » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:48 am

Depends on the school but I would think if I'm on the bottom of a Tier 3 or Tier 4 school, job prospects would be slim to none... i'd probably drop out at that point.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby StylinNProfilin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:49 am

Never. But I'm looking at a very manageable debt load and if I completely fail at finding at a law job I can always go back to my former career.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shntn » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:49 am

cusenation wrote:If i can't make median my 1L...then better to drop out and cut my losses. None of the schools i'm willing to go to will offer me viable job prospects if I'm lower than median..

Yeah, LS is kinda nice in that all the pressure, in general, is front-loaded. 1L grades play a big role in your 2L SA gig, which will in turn probably be what you do after graduation. If 1L goes wonderfully, well then yay. If it goes badly, it should (theoretically) be easy to recognize that fact and abandon ship before financing two more years of school.

Unless you're on a full ride or something, in which case I would just stick with it no matter what because why the hell not.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby 20130312 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:04 pm

I have a stip at top 40%, so falling below that would have made me seriously consider it.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:04 pm

shntn wrote:
cusenation wrote:If i can't make median my 1L...then better to drop out and cut my losses. None of the schools i'm willing to go to will offer me viable job prospects if I'm lower than median..

Yeah, LS is kinda nice in that all the pressure, in general, is front-loaded. 1L grades play a big role in your 2L SA gig, which will in turn probably be what you do after graduation. If 1L goes wonderfully, well then yay. If it goes badly, it should (theoretically) be easy to recognize that fact and abandon ship before financing two more years of school.

Unless you're on a full ride or something, in which case I would just stick with it no matter what because why the hell not.


+1

Except..any school that would give me a true full-ride (that covers living expenses) probably wouldn't give me a job even if I was at the top of my class :(

Such is the Sophie's Choice of being a splitter:
1. Schools with good job placement make us incur massive debt
2. Schools that will give us full-rides have shitty job placement

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby gaud » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:05 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:I have a stip at top 40%, so falling below that would have made me seriously consider it.


lol i'd be so worried if i were you

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shntn » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:06 pm

cusenation wrote:Such is the Sophie's Choice of being a splitter:
1. Schools with good job placement make us incur massive debt
2. Schools that will give us full-rides have shitty job placement

:| :| :| :| :| :|
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:Thinking about this makes me very unhappy.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby toothbrush » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:06 pm

alwayssunnyinfl wrote:Thinking about this makes me very unhappy.

Seriously this is a depressing thought that I haven't entertained yet.

I would probably say if I didn't make median than I'd cut my losses early.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby 20130312 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:06 pm

gaud wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:I have a stip at top 40%, so falling below that would have made me seriously consider it.


lol i'd be so worried if i were you

It's pretty much impossible for me to fall below that at this point :wink:

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby stillwater » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:08 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
gaud wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:I have a stip at top 40%, so falling below that would have made me seriously consider it.


lol i'd be so worried if i were you

It's pretty much impossible for me to fall below that at this point :wink:


comforting huh?

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby Rahviveh » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:12 pm

Bottom of the barrel grades (maybe bottom 15-20%?) I'm probably dropping out. But I'd try to assess my chances for getting a 2L SA while in school using whatever information OCS gives out, something I can't do right now as a 0L. Going at sticker or near sticker so LS doesn't make sense without big law (and I'm not interested in anything else anyways)
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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shifty_eyed » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:12 pm

shntn wrote:
cusenation wrote:Such is the Sophie's Choice of being a splitter:
1. Schools with good job placement make us incur massive debt
2. Schools that will give us full-rides have shitty job placement

:| :| :| :| :| :|
alwayssunnyinfl wrote:Thinking about this makes me very unhappy.

I spend way too much time thinking about this. :|

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby gaud » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:14 pm

Law school is a risk, guys. You splitters just have to think about how debt adverse you are.

IMO, taking out +$150k for school is just crazy, so I went local and cheap. I know a ton of peeps who went the other route.

You'll make it work. Just quit TLS your first year lol

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby DoveBodyWash » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:15 pm

shifty_eyed wrote:I spend way too much time thinking about this. :|


+1
What else can we do? Just gotta gun like a mofo during 1L

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby 20130312 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:15 pm

gaud wrote: quit TLS your first year lol

BLASPHEMY

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby gaud » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:15 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
gaud wrote: quit TLS your first year lol

BLASPHEMY


:lol:

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby northwood » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:17 pm

i honestly wish i coudl go back in time and drop out after fall semester 1L... but now im at the point where it would be foolish to drop out.

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Re: Under what conditions would you consider dropping out?

Postby shifty_eyed » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:19 pm

northwood wrote:i honestly wish i coudl go back in time and drop out after fall semester 1L... but now im at the point where it would be foolish to drop out.

Is this because you dislike law or because you feel your grades 1st semester ruined your chances at getting a good job?




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