Cornell Class of 2016

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:48 am

ImNoScar wrote:
teachmehowtoraji wrote:Nice Lavitz. Anyone have any idea which professors are supposed to be chill and which aren't? I'm sure it's in the "Students Taking Questions" thread but I really don't feel like combing that right now.

Since you can't choose your professors, I wouldn't worry which ones are "chill." Instead, once you get the assignments, focus on trying to understand what makes that professor tick and how they testgetting sick outlines from upperclassmen. This is something you'll gradually figure out during the semester.


Fixed.

Also, re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Lavitz » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:50 am

Arbiter213 wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:Since you can't choose your professors, I wouldn't worry which ones are "chill." Instead, once you get the assignments, focus on trying to understand what makes that professor tick and how they testgetting sick outlines from upperclassmen. This is something you'll gradually figure out during the semester.


Fixed.

Also, re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

Oh, then it works out. Thanks.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:59 am

Arbiter213 wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:Since you can't choose your professors, I wouldn't worry which ones are "chill." Instead, once you get the assignments, focus on trying to understand what makes that professor tick and how they testgetting sick outlines from upperclassmen. This is something you'll gradually figure out during the semester.


Fixed.

Also, re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

That too. I personally don't like using other people's outlines. This may be another good example: people learn differently in law school. Some people really benefit from study groups. Some think they are useless. Some people make their own outlines. Some use upperclassmens/make their own. Some don't make one at all.
Law school isn't the same formula for everyone. Remember how you learn well now. I know law school feels daunting but how you learn isn't going to change.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Rlabo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:05 am

Headin up to Cornell for the day - if any1's around and wants to meet up for a little, feel free to shoot me a message. Also, any1 know any place I should make sure to hit for lunch?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:05 pm

Rlabo wrote:Headin up to Cornell for the day - if any1's around and wants to meet up for a little, feel free to shoot me a message. Also, any1 know any place I should make sure to hit for lunch?

Chipotle. The answer is always Chipotle.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:07 pm

Lavitz wrote:So I think I found the class schedules. We just need to know our section assignments. I'm too lazy to make graphs for all these, so I just typed this up for now.

Edit: Sections CDF have 1 more hour of class per week because of Eisenberg. But the class ends a few weeks early to compensate.
Arbiter213 wrote:re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

thanks lavitz for doing that work, as always.

I assume we get assignments on first day of orientation (or second, whichever)

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby T20hopeful89 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:22 pm

toothbrush wrote:
Lavitz wrote:So I think I found the class schedules. We just need to know our section assignments. I'm too lazy to make graphs for all these, so I just typed this up for now.

Edit: Sections CDF have 1 more hour of class per week because of Eisenberg. But the class ends a few weeks early to compensate.
Arbiter213 wrote:re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

thanks lavitz for doing that work, as always.

I assume we get assignments on first day of orientation (or second, whichever)



I think we get them in early August -- I seem to recall reading that somewhere.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:23 pm

T20hopeful89 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
Lavitz wrote:So I think I found the class schedules. We just need to know our section assignments. I'm too lazy to make graphs for all these, so I just typed this up for now.

Edit: Sections CDF have 1 more hour of class per week because of Eisenberg. But the class ends a few weeks early to compensate.
Arbiter213 wrote:re: Eisenberg: He makes the class meet more often, then ends the class a week or two early. It's awful at first, but awesome come exams.

thanks lavitz for doing that work, as always.

I assume we get assignments on first day of orientation (or second, whichever)



I think we get them in early August -- I seem to recall reading that somewhere.


Correct.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby toothbrush » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:25 pm

Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:30 pm

toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby highopes337 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:22 pm

RetakeFrenzy wrote:
guinness1547 wrote:Why not both?


Good point! I will probably get to Ithaca too late, though (around 23rd) :|


From the looks of the spreadsheet on FB, Saturday the 24th looks like one of the more popular days for the hike.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:53 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.


There's talk that the section that gets Joel Atlas has the highest placement into LR. I thought it was kind of BS but more than half the people I know to be on LR right now had Atlas. Go figure.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:54 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.


There's talk that the section that gets Joel Atlas has the highest placement into LR. I thought it was kind of BS but more than half the people I know to be on LR right now had Atlas. Go figure.


Let me clarify: I don't think it's because somehow the super stars get into one section and is assigned Atlas. Atlas is very, very strict about formatting and bluebooking, so you have an edge with the writing competition. That's my educated guess.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:01 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.


There's talk that the section that gets Joel Atlas has the highest placement into LR. I thought it was kind of BS but more than half the people I know to be on LR right now had Atlas. Go figure.


Let me clarify: I don't think it's because somehow the super stars get into one section and is assigned Atlas. Atlas is very, very strict about formatting and bluebooking, so you have an edge with the writing competition. That's my educated guess.


I have a theory that for one of the profs, grades in his/her class have an inverse correlation with legal writing ability.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:03 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:I have a theory that for one of the profs, grades in his/her class have an inverse correlation with legal writing ability.


I know who you're talking about. 70% of the class gets a B+ and there's really no improvement from fall to spring. The key is to not waste time on the class then and focus your energy elsewhere. Like having a life.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Lincoln » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:29 pm

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.


There's talk that the section that gets Joel Atlas has the highest placement into LR. I thought it was kind of BS but more than half the people I know to be on LR right now had Atlas. Go figure.


Atlas's section is at least overrepresented on LR every year, so it's not just talk.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:07 pm

highopes337 wrote:
RetakeFrenzy wrote:
guinness1547 wrote:Why not both?


Good point! I will probably get to Ithaca too late, though (around 23rd) :|


From the looks of the spreadsheet on FB, Saturday the 24th looks like one of the more popular days for the hike.


Spreadsheet?

Edit: Oh NVM I found it :)

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:14 pm

Lincoln wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
Arbiter213 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:Cool. Sooner than I thought. Any section "better" in any way than the others, arbiter?


Not really. Different lawyering profs is the biggest difference.


There's talk that the section that gets Joel Atlas has the highest placement into LR. I thought it was kind of BS but more than half the people I know to be on LR right now had Atlas. Go figure.


Atlas's section is at least overrepresented on LR every year, so it's not just talk.


Yeah...Atlas's section has it rough during the year (seen running around with rulers to measure margins) but gets you into shape for that note test I guess.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:38 am

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:Yeah...Atlas's section has it rough during the year (seen running around with rulers to measure margins) but gets you into shape for that note test I guess.


:shock: seriously?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby toothbrush » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:50 am

Mischief / Arbiter / whoever else browses this. With basically a 9-330 M-Th and a short Friday schedule, what did the rest of your evenings / weekends look like for most of the first semester?

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:40 am

RetakeFrenzy wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:Yeah...Atlas's section has it rough during the year (seen running around with rulers to measure margins) but gets you into shape for that note test I guess.


:shock: seriously?


knew i'd seen the pic. found it.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:44 am

toothbrush wrote:Mischief / Arbiter / whoever else browses this. With basically a 9-330 M-Th and a short Friday schedule, what did the rest of your evenings / weekends look like for most of the first semester?


There was some sort of an event for at least one day every weekend, I think, whether it be a party, boat cruise (not really a cruise, literally just a boat), a party @ Hughes (lol), fall ball, etc. Rest of the weekend you'd do your readings, try to relax a bit, go grocery shopping, etc. I feel like up until finals it wasn't really bad; it doesn't feel bad because everyone's doing the same thing and we love whining to each other.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:00 am

MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:
RetakeFrenzy wrote:
MischiefMayhemSoap wrote:Yeah...Atlas's section has it rough during the year (seen running around with rulers to measure margins) but gets you into shape for that note test I guess.


:shock: seriously?


knew i'd seen the pic. found it.


:lol: oh well if all that gives you an edge in the LR competition...

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby Rlabo » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:14 am

toothbrush wrote:
Rlabo wrote:Headin up to Cornell for the day - if any1's around and wants to meet up for a little, feel free to shoot me a message. Also, any1 know any place I should make sure to hit for lunch?

Chipotle. The answer is always Chipotle.


Chipotle is awesome, but was looking for smtn more ithaca/Cornell specific. Ended up checking out College Town bagels which is prty chilled - solid sandwich.

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Re: Cornell Class of 2016

Postby MischiefMayhemSoap » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:53 am

Rlabo wrote:Chipotle is awesome, but was looking for smtn more ithaca/Cornell specific. Ended up checking out College Town bagels which is prty chilled - solid sandwich.


Chipotle is not walking distance from the law school. Unless you have a car you will not be going often. Same goes for Panera.

It is a ridiculous hour right now and I'm sleep deprived but I'm going to review Collegetown eateries (as in, right there by the law school) I can remember from the top of my head, just because.

- CTB (Collegetown Bagels as you mentioned) - closest place to the law school. Solid selections. Slightly overpriced for bagel sandwiches but what are you gonna do. Opens late (like 2am I think) so a solid choice if you don't want to go to 7-11. Popular.
- Rulloff's is a bar and a restaurant that has solid burgers, fries, etc. Popular.
- 7-11 is obviously not an "eatery" per se but they have wings and cheap but surprisingly okay pizza, and the fact that it's open 24-7 means you'll buy food there eventually if you live in Collegetown/live in Hughes.
- Stella's - really the only "fancy" restaurant in Collegetown. Pricier for that reason. Has a bar both on ground floor and downstairs. You will eat there on people's birthdays, when your student group invited someone from outside Ithaca, for some firm receptions, if you just want a not-crappy meal, etc. There's also a cafe attached to the side that has nice drinks.
- Apollo's - crappy cheap Chinese food, because Collegetown is a college town.

And across the street from these guys are:
- Yogurt Crazy is a froyo place that charges by weight. It's pretty awesome to have one so close to the law school.
- Starbucks is Starbucks is Starbucks.

Then you hit the four-way. Facing away from the law school...

> Straight ahead:
- That Burrito Place is literally what it's called. I never tried them because I hear they're not that good. I think it's like Chipotle.
- Koko's is a Korean restaurant. Good food, portion not that great and pricy for what it's worth, but you're in Ithaca.
- The Nines is a pizza place and has good pizza. I think people met there a lot especially in fall, until Collegetown Pizza opened.
- Insomnia Cookies has warm cookies and milk that will serve you well on a drunk weekend night.

> If you turn left:
- Little Thai House that always seems empty. I had pad thai there once and it wasn't bad at all - and it was cheap - but for some reason no one really goes. Because it's so empty.
- Asian Noodle House - not just noodles, a lot of choices. Curry rice dishes too. One of the better choices imho.
- There's a Viet noodle place right next to it. Their pho is good imo but I think there's generally a lot of disagreement among people when it comes to Asian food.
- There's also a dim-sum place that I was kind of meh about but then again I don't know dim-sum very well.

> If you turn right:
- Jack's - Burger/fries place. Has wings too.
- Cafe Pacific - Boba drinks and trendier(?) Japanese meals, snacks, desserts, etc. Not a fan of their meals but check it out for their desserts and Asian snacks.
- Aladdin's - Mediterranean food. Solid salads and pasta. One of the nicer establishments.
- Collegetown Pizza - cheap pizza and open late, better drunk
- Pita Pit is a chain, no? Pitas and chips and drinks for cheap.
- Plum Tree - Slightly cheaper of the two sushi places in Collegetown. Popular. Undergrads like to meet in large groups and have sake bombs.
- Subway is Subway is Subway.
- Mexeo has burritos and burrito bowls like Chipotle does but a bit pricier. People like it, especially the Californians.
- Dasan J is Korean and Korean-style Chinese food. I might have ordered the wrong thing but I didn't like whatever it is that I had the first time and never went back.

If you keep going and turn left from there (sorry I don't care enough to look up street names):
- Miyake is another sushi place. A little bit more expensive than Plum Tree but also slightly better?
- Four Seasons is another Korean restaurant. You can have Korean BBQ there but I hear it's super expensive and just not worth it. They do however have other regular meals and I think they give you more food than Koko's does/slightly cheaper.
- There is some sort of tea house across from these that have much better boba than Cafe Pacific.
- There are two Indian restaurants almost right next to each other. Unfortunately the names escape me. One of them does really cheap lunch buffet that I thought was pretty good.
- Souvlaki House. Greek. It seems a bit pricy at first but they give you so much food. I didn't like their pasta but enjoyed their salad and bread and some other food I had, can't remember right now. I don't think it's that popular among law students though; I didn't even know about it all of fall semester.

I can't remember any more - none that I've been to, anyway.

lol @ Lacepiece contributing class info and me contributing food info.




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