Cornell Law Class of 2015

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2015)

Which ASW date will you attend?

March 30th
20
33%
April 13th
16
26%
Both
2
3%
Neither
23
38%
 
Total votes: 61

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top30man
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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby top30man » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:24 pm

Mr. Somebody wrote:Btw has anyone.successfully negotiated an increase with them yet? Just wondering because I sent them my other offer last week and havent heard back. With a bunch of people still waiting for initial offers I wonder when they'll get to the negotiations

I sent my aid offers with my tax returns. Though I got more $$$ than my numbers usually do. So I'm taking that as they negotiated because I'm not a special snowflake.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby JDProspect » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:26 pm

Green Glass Windows wrote:
Lawbro wrote:Anyone still waiting on financial aid? It seems a few people got theirs last week

Still waiting here.


+1

Contacted them and they said by the end of the week. I hope that's true!

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby kerrigaa » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:45 am

Mr. Somebody wrote:Who's bringing their car from CA and is down for a road trip? :D With the mandatory stop in Vegas of course


I'm not road tripping from Calimafornia, but I'd be down for a mandatory pre-endofmysociallife trip to Vegas.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby paulshortys10 » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:19 am

Mr. Somebody wrote:Who's bringing their car from CA and is down for a road trip? :D With the mandatory stop in Vegas of course


Doing the Pre-1L Vegas trip and also road tripping it from CA to NY with my buddy who's also attending Cornell.

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Mr. Somebody
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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby Mr. Somebody » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:09 pm

So I've been killing time at work by tracking LSN a lot the past couple weeks to see how people are responding to schollies.

http://cornell.lawschoolnumbers.com/app ... =3&type=jd

I shared the spreadsheet Ive been using

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... MQ3c#gid=0

Its always interesting to me to see what kind of yield the schools are getting after they invest in a scholarship offer.

I don't know what the yield for other T14 full tuition schollies is like, but 7 Dean's Scholarship recipients are reported on LSN. 10 are awarded each year, so that's a pretty good reporting rate (and I think lends credence to the idea that people with higher stats and more cycle success are more likely to report on LSN). Out of the 7, 6 have already withdrawn. The last one is deciding between the Dean's and ~$50-60k at CCN.

I'm also struck by the number of people that withdrew and took other offers from other schools without bothering to try to negotiate and get an increase.

So according to this around $2.6 million was left on the table (keeping in mind the huge caveat about self-reporting, under-reporting, etc, and that I left out anything under 60k)

Moral of the story, which I guess we already knew, a lot of money has been freed up and you should remain vigilant if you are looking for more...

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby Green Glass Windows » Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:23 pm

^
Giving me false hope.... Thanks for the number crunch though.

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breadbucket
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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby breadbucket » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:41 am

While I'm happy, it makes me wish I had gotten a few more points on the LSAT :(

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby LurkStar » Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:50 am

So, if I haven't gotten a room assignment in Hughes yet, should I assume that I won't be getting one?

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby msblaw89 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:45 am

[img]http://vivavisibilityblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/show-me-the-money.jpg/img]

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby horrorbusiness » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:31 pm

LurkStar wrote:So, if I haven't gotten a room assignment in Hughes yet, should I assume that I won't be getting one?


not necessarily, you should just call and ask. there are probably some people that applied but won't end up taking a spot.

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Mr. Somebody
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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby Mr. Somebody » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:17 pm

Waiting for my law.cornell.edu email address... or is it just gonna be cornell.edu?

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby Arbiter213 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:24 pm

Mr. Somebody wrote:Waiting for my law.cornell.edu email address... or is it just gonna be cornell.edu?


Just cornell.edu. It's a gmail account.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby woeisme » Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:43 pm

Arbiter213 wrote:
Mr. Somebody wrote:Waiting for my law.cornell.edu email address... or is it just gonna be cornell.edu?


Just cornell.edu. It's a Cmail account.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby top30man » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:17 pm

They finally sent the housing email. Anyone know about that private complex they talked about? Collegetown Terrace? It sounds very expensive.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:37 pm

top30man wrote:They finally sent the housing email. Anyone know about that private complex they talked about? Collegetown Terrace? It sounds very expensive.

It is ...its brand new 1/1 is 1435 per month

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby top30man » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:48 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
top30man wrote:They finally sent the housing email. Anyone know about that private complex they talked about? Collegetown Terrace? It sounds very expensive.

It is ...its brand new 1/1 is 1435 per month

Well. Never mind haha. Thanks.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:58 pm

top30man wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:
top30man wrote:They finally sent the housing email. Anyone know about that private complex they talked about? Collegetown Terrace? It sounds very expensive.

It is ...its brand new 1/1 is 1435 per month

Well. Never mind haha. Thanks.

It sounds like they might give some sort of discount for law students

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby muddup » Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:20 pm

Hey for all you housing ppl.

I must move in early August, which means Hughes (opens Aug 17th) is out of the picture...so is there anyone renting within 5 min of school?

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby paulshortys10 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:32 am

muddup wrote:Hey for all you housing ppl.

I must move in early August, which means Hughes (opens Aug 17th) is out of the picture...so is there anyone renting within 5 min of school?


why not rent a sublet for 2 weeks and then get Hughes?

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby SaintFond » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:10 pm

Hey, a Q for you guys

I got a scholly from Cornell, but there was a footnote at the bottom of the offer letter:

"Please note that scholarship awards are given with the understanding that there is a moral obligation to repay the Law School if future financial circumstances permit repayment."

Did any of you (non Dean's or other special) scholly recipients get this kind of offer? I'm trying to figure out if this is normal for Cornell, or whether they're trying to scam me with some kind of forgivable loan masquerading as a scholarship.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby msblaw89 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:21 pm

SaintFond wrote:Hey, a Q for you guys

I got a scholly from Cornell, but there was a footnote at the bottom of the offer letter:

"Please note that scholarship awards are given with the understanding that there is a moral obligation to repay the Law School if future financial circumstances permit repayment."

Did any of you (non Dean's or other special) scholly recipients get this kind of offer? I'm trying to figure out if this is normal for Cornell, or whether they're trying to scam me with some kind of forgivable loan masquerading as a scholarship.


Many schools give grants on the base of need...and then expect you to pay it back if you land a great job

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby SaintFond » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:43 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
SaintFond wrote:Hey, a Q for you guys

I got a scholly from Cornell, but there was a footnote at the bottom of the offer letter:

"Please note that scholarship awards are given with the understanding that there is a moral obligation to repay the Law School if future financial circumstances permit repayment."

Did any of you (non Dean's or other special) scholly recipients get this kind of offer? I'm trying to figure out if this is normal for Cornell, or whether they're trying to scam me with some kind of forgivable loan masquerading as a scholarship.


Many schools give grants on the base of need...and then expect you to pay it back if you land a great job


That makes sense, but then why would they call it a scholarship instead of a grant? Berkeley offers need based grants too, but I don't *think* it calls them scholarships. Still seems odd to me or even slightly shady.

Good information to know, though, because I had submitted a matching scholarship app to Berkeley, and I am still waiting to hear back. However, if it's really a need based grant, there's a pretty good chance Berkeley will not match.

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby Mr. Somebody » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:57 pm

I had it at the end of my letter and my award was definitely not need based. I wouldn't pay it any mind and Cornell isn't the only school to attach such a note

Its amusing though when law schools try to suggest they are doing you a big favor by giving you a merit award when its usually the matriculant doing the admissions office a big favor

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby SaintFond » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:04 pm

Mr. Somebody wrote:I had it at the end of my letter and my award was definitely not need based. I wouldn't pay it any mind and Cornell isn't the only school to attach such a note

Its amusing though when law schools try to suggest they are doing you a big favor by giving you a merit award when its usually the matriculant doing the admissions office a big favor


Yeah. As I was searching around on the forums, I found someone saying that Cornell's "grants" were both need & merit based. Plus, I realize they are giving me far too much money relative to my (parents) income. Berk, for example, flat out told me I was ineligible for NB grants after they saw my parents' FAFSA information.

Makes me roll my eyes a little bit, but are there any real repercussions for not repaying? Or is it just them tacking on that little note in the slightest off-chance you might be guilted into donating to the school?

On that note, I got called by my UG school today, and I made the mistake of answering the phone. Ended up donating like $100 out of my small savings and salary, lol

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Re: Cornell Law Class of 2015

Postby JDProspect » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:17 pm

speaking of scholarships...

I'm wondering how long did most of you have to wait to hear from the financial aid office?




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