Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby mushybrain » Wed May 16, 2012 7:32 am

I finally clicked the button. I'ma goin' to Berkeley.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Redamon1 » Wed May 16, 2012 11:09 am

mushybrain wrote:I finally clicked the button. I'ma goin' to Berkeley.


Congrats!! See you in August! :D

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Aspen » Wed May 16, 2012 5:14 pm

Let's hope Governor Brown's tax plan passes this November! It's going to suck if the UC system has to get cut by another couple billion. I feel like the law school is more insulated from these issues but they still affect our tuition.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Aspen » Thu May 17, 2012 10:08 am

Virgil777 wrote:
Aspen wrote:Let's hope Governor Brown's tax plan passes this November! It's going to suck if the UC system has to get cut by another couple billion. I feel like the law school is more insulated from these issues but they still affect our tuition.


The sales tax is already 7.75% where I live, with some areas around that have 8.5-8.75% , and now he wants to raise it even more? HAH! I'll vote against it.
Let them cut whatever they want to cut from the UC system, and then let the UC system raise their tuition for their undergards to make it comparable to other states. I don't see how this will affect us, unless UC decided to make Boalt the most expensive law school in the country, in which case we'll just transfer out of it.


.....yeah you're right!!! It's going to be so fun for all of us to transfer out of law school midway into it!! :roll:

This isn't just an undergrad thing either. We're part of a larger campus and they've already made tons of cuts to things, especially upkeep. Plus, when the Board of Regents increases tuition it will screw us over too. Anyway though, let's just all hope things are ok for the law school and the campus over the next few years in spite of these fiscal issues.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby poe » Thu May 17, 2012 10:37 pm

So how many of you are doing Berkeley at sticker?

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Voldemort » Thu May 17, 2012 11:40 pm

I dont know... I think I have to take my USC scholarship offer... I can't believe all the offers that expired while I waited for Berkeley to "match" - such a disingenuous and misleading scholarship program. Funny how they make the deadline to hear back the same day they can see your deposits.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby poe » Fri May 18, 2012 12:02 am

Voldemort wrote:I dont know... I think I have to take my USC scholarship offer... I can't believe all the offers that expired while I waited for Berkeley to "match" - such a disingenuous and misleading scholarship program. Funny how they make the deadline to hear back the same day they can see your deposits.


Yeah, that did seem a bit... odd.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby catwomangirl » Fri May 18, 2012 9:27 pm

Anyone still waiting for Matching?

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby thecactus » Mon May 21, 2012 3:14 pm

Virgil777 wrote:
goodthings wrote:
Virgil777 wrote:
Aspen wrote:Let's hope Governor Brown's tax plan passes this November! It's going to suck if the UC system has to get cut by another couple billion. I feel like the law school is more insulated from these issues but they still affect our tuition.


The sales tax is already 7.75% where I live, with some areas around that have 8.5-8.75% , and now he wants to raise it even more? HAH! I'll vote against it.
Let them cut whatever they want to cut from the UC system, and then let the UC system raise their tuition for their undergards to make it comparable to other states. I don't see how this will affect us, unless UC decided to make Boalt the most expensive law school in the country, in which case we'll just transfer out of it.


Totally worth saving the quarter cent tax hike. Definitely the way to right the sinking ship that is the Californian economy, too. Nice.


No, giving more money to people who can't manage it and increasing taxes on the rich to make them more likely to move out of the state is the way to fix the economy.

If there is really nothing else except for education that they can cut - let them. There are 49 other states I can send my kids to college to if there is ever a need. Besides, an increase in tuition can potentially be a great thing - rational students will be less likely to major in humanities and more likely to opt for S.T.E.M. fields.


I can't tell if you're a troll. You don't even sound like you're from California because you sound like you know nothing about our state. 7.75% sales tax is high? HA!!!

California's problem has always been that there are a handful of hardheads in the state legislature who refuse to raise taxes on principle and block every attempt to do so. But the fact is, we NEED more taxes right now, period. You can argue that the state wastes moneys on a lot of things (like throwing money at private prison contractors) but education is not one of these things.

California's higher education system has always kept its economy going. When the Cold War ended, folks in San Diego were scared that the city's economy would collapse when military grants dried up, but the emerging bioengineering industry was able to pick up the slack, thanks in large part to the research powerhouse that is UC San Diego. Silicon Valley is powered by local schools like Berkeley and San Jose State.

Like previous posters said, low cost of business is NOT what keeps businesses in California. Tech companies and bioengineering companies stay here because of the culture of innovation and high quality graduates local schools produce. Agribusiness stays here because of the climate. Hell, look at the restaurant business in San Francisco: San Francisco restaurant workers are paid the best in the whole country, and somehow SF manages to maintain a vibrant dining scene second only to NYC. Low operating cost has never really been California's appeal to businesses, but if start chipping away at our higher education system, it gives one less incentive for companies to stay here.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby FavoriteColorGRUE » Mon May 21, 2012 5:59 pm

Sorry for asking in 2 threads...

...but does anyone know specifics re: the need to withdraw from other WLs when you select the "will attend" response (which I know we need to do by June 1st)?

From Berkeley's site: "I accept admission to Berkeley Law School. I will definitely enroll as a member of the Class of 2015 in August. I will withdraw my application and remove myself from waiting lists at all other law schools immediately. I agree to notify the Admissions Office if my plans change subsequently so as to affect my enrollment in August."

So sorry if this has been asked/answered before.... but is it actually true that we cannot stay on other WLs??

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Kronk » Mon May 21, 2012 6:04 pm

FavoriteColorGRUE wrote:Sorry for asking in 2 threads...

...but does anyone know specifics re: the need to withdraw from other WLs when you select the "will attend" response (which I know we need to do by June 1st)?

From Berkeley's site: "I accept admission to Berkeley Law School. I will definitely enroll as a member of the Class of 2015 in August. I will withdraw my application and remove myself from waiting lists at all other law schools immediately. I agree to notify the Admissions Office if my plans change subsequently so as to affect my enrollment in August."

So sorry if this has been asked/answered before.... but is it actually true that we cannot stay on other WLs??


I think it would only be an issue if you are receiving scholarships or need-based finaid from Boalt. If not I don't know that they have much leverage to make you stay, although I heard a horror story about scholarships and someone getting off the Harvard waitlist and Berkeley somehow forcing them to stay. But I don't know if it's true or not.

Either way isn't there a tentative acceptance or something? It may be that you can stay on a waitlist, but I think it'd be bad form if there's not another option.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Aspen » Tue May 22, 2012 9:53 am

Virgil777 wrote:
thecactus wrote:
I can't tell if you're a troll. You don't even sound like you're from California because you sound like you know nothing about our state. 7.75% sales tax is high? HA!!!

California's problem has always been that there are a handful of hardheads in the state legislature who refuse to raise taxes on principle and block every attempt to do so. But the fact is, we NEED more taxes right now, period. You can argue that the state wastes moneys on a lot of things (like throwing money at private prison contractors) but education is not one of these things.

California's higher education system has always kept its economy going. When the Cold War ended, folks in San Diego were scared that the city's economy would collapse when military grants dried up, but the emerging bioengineering industry was able to pick up the slack, thanks in large part to the research powerhouse that is UC San Diego. Silicon Valley is powered by local schools like Berkeley and San Jose State.

Like previous posters said, low cost of business is NOT what keeps businesses in California. Tech companies and bioengineering companies stay here because of the culture of innovation and high quality graduates local schools produce. Agribusiness stays here because of the climate. Hell, look at the restaurant business in San Francisco: San Francisco restaurant workers are paid the best in the whole country, and somehow SF manages to maintain a vibrant dining scene second only to NYC. Low operating cost has never really been California's appeal to businesses, but if start chipping away at our higher education system, it gives one less incentive for companies to stay here.


You can spare the lecture about the merits of California's higher education system for your representative; perhaps you should send him an email and ask him to mention this to Mr.Brown who is so eager to cut education instead of cutting spending on things like the private prison contractors that you mentioned.

7.75% sales tax, with areas 15 minutes away that have an 8.75% tax, is already one of the highest in the country and is sure as hell high enough for me. That's a 7.75% in lost profits on small exports for me, while my buddy in Oregon loses nothing. In addition to the sales tax, there is a "temporary" 30% tax increase on people making $250,000+ that is conveniently ignored. Genius idea to encourage people to move to California to start a business and maybe help the economy out, as well as discourage people already living in California from moving to a different state.

Giving additional money to people that can't manage spending is not a solution that will fix this problem. Temporary fix- maybe. In the long term- not so much.



Bottom line- I am voting against the tax increase.


So if you are against investing in California and against the UC system getting any more money after years of budget cuts......why are you going to the UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA!? Why didn't you just choose to go to some out of state school or just sever your ties to California if you want to trash it and its prestigious institutions (including the one you're going to be supposedly attending) so much.

You conveniently ignore the fact that California basically lacks any basic form of property tax, similar to other states/jurisdictions after Prop 13. That's why we have such high sales taxes to begin with. Businesses in California already get a windfall from that AND the option of being able to calculate their taxes under two formulas. The Republicans, even against the Schwarzenegger's wishes, were blocking the budget in 2009, which they could do so prior to the passage of Prop 25. So the Democrats had to pass this very pro-business tax change calculated at a $1 billion business tax break. Here's an excerpt from Bloomberg: "The deal, constructed during the height of the state's budget crisis [in 2009], allowed companies operating in multiple states to choose the cheaper of two formulas for calculating their tax liability in California. They can use an option that considers sales, property and payroll, or a "single-sales" formula based on product sales in California. In the years since the deal, Democrats have sought to force corporations to use only the single sales factor, a change the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office has endorsed. At least 11 other states, including Texas and New York, require that corporations calculate their tax obligations this way, according to the Federation of Tax Administrators."

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby EvelynS » Tue May 22, 2012 10:33 am

Kronk wrote:
FavoriteColorGRUE wrote:Sorry for asking in 2 threads...

...but does anyone know specifics re: the need to withdraw from other WLs when you select the "will attend" response (which I know we need to do by June 1st)?

From Berkeley's site: "I accept admission to Berkeley Law School. I will definitely enroll as a member of the Class of 2015 in August. I will withdraw my application and remove myself from waiting lists at all other law schools immediately. I agree to notify the Admissions Office if my plans change subsequently so as to affect my enrollment in August."

So sorry if this has been asked/answered before.... but is it actually true that we cannot stay on other WLs??


I think it would only be an issue if you are receiving scholarships or need-based finaid from Boalt. If not I don't know that they have much leverage to make you stay, although I heard a horror story about scholarships and someone getting off the Harvard waitlist and Berkeley somehow forcing them to stay. But I don't know if it's true or not.

Either way isn't there a tentative acceptance or something? It may be that you can stay on a waitlist, but I think it'd be bad form if there's not another option.


"After April 1, except under binding early decision plans, every
accepted applicant should be free to accept a new offer from
a law school even though a scholarship has been accepted,
a deposit has been paid, or a commitment has been made
to another school. To provide applicants with an uncoerced
choice among various law schools, no excessive
nonrefundable deposit should be required solely to maintain
a place in the class. Beginning on May 15 of each year, law
schools that participate in the Commitment Overlap Service
will be provided with information concerning all enrollment
commitments to any law school made by those applicants
who have indicated an intention to enroll in that school’s
entering class. A law school should clearly communicate its
policies on multiple enrollment commitments upon admission". (LSAC website)

I think that waitlist somewhere is not considered an enrollment commitment. Also, you can explain that your decision to go to Berkeley was based on limited information, i.e. you did not know if you get in to the school in question and if they offer you better scholarship. However, I think B can hold on to their scholarship offer if they find out. I highly doubt they will reverse their admission decision or make you go no matter what.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Voldemort » Wed May 30, 2012 11:57 am

Recently withdrew from B. Sad. Hope everyone attending has a great time.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby EvelynS » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:47 pm

Just got off the phone with the Admissions Office regarding Name schollys. There is no money left. So upsetting... :(

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby catwomangirl » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:24 pm

EvelynS wrote:Just got off the phone with the Admissions Office regarding Name schollys. There is no money left. So upsetting... :(


Any word on matching?

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby EvelynS » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:33 am

catwomangirl wrote:
EvelynS wrote:Just got off the phone with the Admissions Office regarding Name schollys. There is no money left. So upsetting... :(


Any word on matching?


Same story here. Unless someone doesn't accept the offer, no money will be offered.

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Rakesh35 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:16 pm

Hey guys,

I'm a recent admit to Berkeley. What are everyone's housing plans? looks like Manville is pretty much locked up. Any suggestions on places nearby or anyone looking for a roommate?

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Re: Berkeley Law (Boalt Hall) Class of 2015

Postby Tanicius » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:01 pm

Rakesh35 wrote:Hey guys,

I'm a recent admit to Berkeley. What are everyone's housing plans? looks like Manville is pretty much locked up. Any suggestions on places nearby or anyone looking for a roommate?


My apartment has a sweet master bedroom available. Gimme a PM if you're interested.




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