Michigan Law Class of 2015

(housing, friendships, future exams, all things 2015)

Which ASW do you plan to attend?

March 15-17
35
34%
March 29-31
46
44%
Both
3
3%
Neither
20
19%
 
Total votes: 104

The Duck
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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:00 pm

Geneva wrote:
The Duck wrote:
Geneva wrote:
Elliott_Smith wrote:Yeah, I was actually pretty reassured about the employment stats, since I've heard a lot of TLS speculation. But in addition to the Michigan take/explanation every single 3L I spoke to has a job.

It sounds like the guaranteed 2L fellowship makes it a lot easier for students to get the summer jobs they want.


what percentage of michigan graduates of the class of 2011 are employed by the school? 10% of uva's class of 2010 was employed by their alma mater after graduating. thus far, i've been unable to find the info for mich...


As far as I know, we don't employ. In fact, I think Dean Z decried this practice as misleading.



i hope that is the case! a december 2011 mich grad that went to my undergrad told me that ITE most top law schools, including mich, do employ


Email Admissions and ask. They won't mind answering. See my edit. I have no idea what they'd be doing. I've never encountered one.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby keg411 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:17 pm

I don't know if Michigan has post-grad fellowships or anything like that. I haven't seen anything advertised around the school. They very well might, so your best bet would be to ask.

Though seriously, Geneva, I think you are a little hysterical about the whole post-grad fellowship thing. You can end up without a job no matter if the school offers those or not. Also, for the schools that do offer them, it's not like the grads are actually working for the school -- they're just getting money to work for some public interest organization or whatever until they can find something. It's a "it's easier to get a job if you have a job" tactic, even if it also boosts employment numbers.

That said, as I said above. I have no idea if Michigan offers this type of program. But even if they did, I really don't see the need to get so hysterical.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:21 pm

keg411 wrote:I don't know if Michigan has post-grad fellowships or anything like that. I haven't seen anything advertised around the school. They very well might, so your best bet would be to ask.

Though seriously, Geneva, I think you are a little hysterical about the whole post-grad fellowship thing. You can end up without a job no matter if the school offers those or not. Also, for the schools that do offer them, it's not like the grads are actually working for the school -- they're just getting money to work for some public interest organization or whatever until they can find something. It's a "it's easier to get a job if you have a job" tactic, even if it also boosts employment numbers.

That said, as I said above. I have no idea if Michigan offers this type of program. But even if they did, I really don't see the need to get so hysterical.


I'd honestly consider these fellowships a negative not a positive. Does anyone consider them positive? It's the school, paying you to bump their numbers...not really a thing more.

Edit: I wasn't sure whether Geneva was looking for a school with or without them...

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Geneva » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:36 pm

The Duck wrote:
keg411 wrote:I don't know if Michigan has post-grad fellowships or anything like that. I haven't seen anything advertised around the school. They very well might, so your best bet would be to ask.

Though seriously, Geneva, I think you are a little hysterical about the whole post-grad fellowship thing. You can end up without a job no matter if the school offers those or not. Also, for the schools that do offer them, it's not like the grads are actually working for the school -- they're just getting money to work for some public interest organization or whatever until they can find something. It's a "it's easier to get a job if you have a job" tactic, even if it also boosts employment numbers.

That said, as I said above. I have no idea if Michigan offers this type of program. But even if they did, I really don't see the need to get so hysterical.


I'd honestly consider these fellowships a negative not a positive. Does anyone consider them positive? It's the school, paying you to bump their numbers...not really a thing more.

Edit: I wasn't sure whether Geneva was looking for a school with or without them...

I agree that they are a negative, but would prefer to have a school admit that they have such a program rather than to keep students in the dark aboutits existence. If Michigan does offer this type of program, I would find it hypocritical/disappointing for Dean Z. to decry this practice at other schools.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:38 pm

I said I think she has...not that she has. Email her and ask if it's a concern.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Geneva » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:40 pm

The Duck wrote:I said I think she has...not that she has. Email her and ask if it's a concern.


Good call. Besides the uncertainty re:employment data, I love everything I've heard about Michigan and Dean Z.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby The Duck » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:42 pm

Geneva wrote:
The Duck wrote:I said I think she has...not that she has. Email her and ask if it's a concern.


Good call. Besides the uncertainty re:employment data, I love everything I've heard about Michigan and Dean Z.


I've honestly never heard of them and I'm sure I would have by now if they existed.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby 46nyc » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:00 pm

The Duck wrote:
Geneva wrote:
The Duck wrote:I said I think she has...not that she has. Email her and ask if it's a concern.


Good call. Besides the uncertainty re:employment data, I love everything I've heard about Michigan and Dean Z.


I've honestly never heard of them and I'm sure I would have by now if they existed.


I have no clue about anything dean z said or didn't say, but they did mention these fellowships at preview weekend. Just that they exist, and if you get one LRAP wont cover you during those years. People from both admissions and OCS mentioned them in sessions.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby JustE » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:06 pm

ASW rocked. Still here. We're at Alley Bar, if you're interested.

Cheap drinks, generous pours.

ETA: It's packed, but we have a big table in the very back.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby descartesb4thehorse » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:11 pm

JustE wrote:ASW rocked. Still here. We're at Alley Bar, if you're interested.

Cheap drinks, generous pours.

ETA: It's packed, but we have a big table in the very back.

Aww wish I weren't being lame and hanging out with my mom. Have fun!

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby JustE » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:15 pm

descartesb4thehorse wrote:
JustE wrote:ASW rocked. Still here. We're at Alley Bar, if you're interested.

Cheap drinks, generous pours.

ETA: It's packed, but we have a big table in the very back.

Aww wish I weren't being lame and hanging out with my mom. Have fun!


:0) Hope mom enjoyed it! Really hope we see you in A2 this year!

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Campagnolo » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:10 am

JustE wrote:
descartesb4thehorse wrote:
JustE wrote:ASW rocked. Still here. We're at Alley Bar, if you're interested.

Cheap drinks, generous pours.

ETA: It's packed, but we have a big table in the very back.

Aww wish I weren't being lame and hanging out with my mom. Have fun!


:0) Hope mom enjoyed it! Really hope we see you in A2 this year!



Can I come?

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby American_in_China » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:03 pm

I'm proud to say that after a couple weeks of deliberation, I am officially committed to UMich! Just sent out my withdrawal emails. Looking forward to second preview weekend. Is the Wednesday night meetup at Ashley's or Dominick's?

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby JDizzle2015 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:20 pm

I had a great time in A2 this week. Someone wanted to read some negatives so here goes:

Undergrads everywhere, especially out on St. Patty's. The 30,000+ undergrads (there were a lot of attractive UGs) is awesome for going out on weekends but the environment made me feel like I was going back to UG as opposed to a professional school. For example, there are classrooms in hitchens (the older building) that are literally across the street from multiple frat houses blasting frat music. I was reassured this only happens on major holidays and football Saturday's but since we had the clerkship panel in one of those rooms, we couldn't hear anything. Current students say that profs will just lecture on as opposed to finding a replacement classroom.

Ditto all the positives previous posters have said. I also reached out to current students I met who didn't volunteer to go to the admitted students events and it does seem like everyone who wanted a firm job has one of some sort. My perception was that there were very few, if any, people worried about getting a job.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Killingly » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:25 pm

Yeah, I was seriously impressed with the ASW. Had a blast.

Talking with Prime right now so I can sign a lease. :D

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby JoeMo » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:02 pm

Killingly wrote:Yeah, I was seriously impressed with the ASW. Had a blast.

Talking with Prime right now so I can sign a lease. :D


+100,000,000 See you in the fall!!!!!!!

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby keg411 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:59 pm

JDizzle2015 wrote:I had a great time in A2 this week. Someone wanted to read some negatives so here goes:

Undergrads everywhere, especially out on St. Patty's. The 30,000+ undergrads (there were a lot of attractive UGs) is awesome for going out on weekends but the environment made me feel like I was going back to UG as opposed to a professional school. For example, there are classrooms in hitchens (the older building) that are literally across the street from multiple frat houses blasting frat music. I was reassured this only happens on major holidays and football Saturday's but since we had the clerkship panel in one of those rooms, we couldn't hear anything. Current students say that profs will just lecture on as opposed to finding a replacement classroom.


Yeah... the undergrads are a negative. And going to school in a college town *will* make you feel like you're more going to college then if you go to school in a more urban area. Definitely not going to try and sugar-coat that one. But it's three years, and it really will depend on your other options on whether or not to just suck it up and deal (for instance, I doubt C'ville or Durham would really help you on that point if you're looking at UVA/Duke... NYU/CLS/Chicago/NW might be a different story).

As for the frats across from Hutchens... for most of the year it's pretty cold, so they're not outside blasting music, and the windows are closed. And yeah, the profs just lecture through it. So it's not really something to worry about.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Dake! » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:12 am

Preview was amazing! I didn't really believe when people said that preview would convince them to enroll, but Michigan, you did an awesome job! People were down to earth, chill, etc. And actually genuinely friendly. Looking very much like Ann Arbor next year:)

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby Killingly » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:43 am

Lease-signing in process. If anyone want to buy a parking spot off of me, I will have one!

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby sandwiches5000 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:47 am

Good to hear that everyone seemed to have a great time at the first asw! I'm going to the second one and I'm pretty pumped. I second the other person who asked what bar we're meeting up at on wednesday...

Also, what hotels are people arriving on Wednesday planning on staying at? I still haven't booked mine... :?

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby thelawschoolproject » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:49 am

sandwiches5000 wrote:

Also, what hotels are people arriving on Wednesday planning on staying at? I still haven't booked mine... :?



I'm staying at the Hampton Inn South...I sincerely hope it was a good choice...

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby sanguar » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:53 am

thelawschoolproject wrote:
sandwiches5000 wrote:

Also, what hotels are people arriving on Wednesday planning on staying at? I still haven't booked mine... :?



I'm staying at the Hampton Inn South...I sincerely hope it was a good choice...

My family stays there when they visit. They like it.

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:06 am

sandwiches5000 wrote:Good to hear that everyone seemed to have a great time at the first asw! I'm going to the second one and I'm pretty pumped. I second the other person who asked what bar we're meeting up at on wednesday...

Also, what hotels are people arriving on Wednesday planning on staying at? I still haven't booked mine... :?


If you just email admissions directly (or call), they can check to see if they still have space for the provided housing. I'm staying in the reserved rooms Wed-Sun. They keep extra rooms available for people arriving early/staying late.

I still need to book a room for Tuesday, though. Suggestions?

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby sandiego222 » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:18 pm

The concerns about it having an undergrad feel don't resonate with me....

Definitely appeals to me more than a highly-competitive serious atmosphere, but maybe that's just because I'm young

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Re: Michigan Law Class of 2015

Postby The Duck » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:54 pm

sandiego222 wrote:The concerns about it having an undergrad feel don't resonate with me....

Definitely appeals to me more than a highly-competitive serious atmosphere, but maybe that's just because I'm young


May just be me but I don't really think it has an undergrad feel. Particularly if you don't go to bars on S. Univ. Main street is where the younger professionals tend to go out.




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