ScrabbleChamp wrote:Has anyone else gone out and purchased a Michigan sweatshirt? By gone out, I of course mean sitting in the comfort of your home and ordering online.
blowhard wrote:
Don't know how to tell you this...but that's not doable. The bridge to cross is known to routinely have 2-3 hour backups. The tunnel is better but at rush hour youll be in bumper-to-bumper the whole way. You're looking at 1.5 hour from detroit alone from 7a-9:30'ish and another 1.5 hour to Detroit from 4p-7p. Thats 3 hours a day not counting the bridge/tunnel or border which is another 30 minutes each way at best.
I commuted to Detroit all summer and hit only moderate traffic. Unlike every other big city, everyone leaves Detroit at rush hour and comes back at night.
Even leaving windsor at 5 am, I doubt you'll make it by 7-7:30. Then you're facing commute home. There just aren't enough hours in the day during 1/2L. Even if mapquest was accurate, you'd have another 20 min to the school from 94 and 2 hours a day isn't doable.
Edit: I'm home now so I'll elaborate more. It took me 30 minutes to get to my apt 3 miles from school, with no traffic. It took me 20-25 minutes to get to my car which is where you'd also have to park. That's 50 minuts a day before you start your commute. Add in an hour each way to Detroit, which is best case at 6 am/8pm, and you're at 3 hours a day commuting before the border crossing or your commute in Windsor. That's not sustainable. I'd be surprised if you made it across the border in less than 45 minutes. During the summer, there seemed to be constant bumper-to-bumper in the bridge/tunnel from 5a-10a or so. There is bumper-to-bumper traffic virtually the whole way from Detroit past AA (and back at night) at the times you'd be driving. Even reverse commuting it took us around an hour to Detroit, at non-rush hour times, from the highway where we met. Again, you'd have to add an hour of commuting within AA to that as well.
Also, I'm not sure why you'd have to live there but if it's cost, it'll cost more in fuel to sit in traffic that long each day than to rent an apt in AA. If it's commitments/spouse, best case is you'd leave home at 5 am and not get home until 10-11pm...every day. You could leave earlier and not read first, but then you'd have 4-5 hours of reading once you made it home. Again best case and not counting legal writing projects, needing to meet with your assigned writing group, officer hours, etc. Either way, you'd be better to stay in AA and buckle down and go home on the weekends which is when you'd have time to see anyone if you did live there.
Nor is that factoring in snow/weather. Michigan hasn't taken a snow day since the late 70s.
kl10qm wrote:blowhard wrote:
Don't know how to tell you this...but that's not doable. The bridge to cross is known to routinely have 2-3 hour backups. The tunnel is better but at rush hour youll be in bumper-to-bumper the whole way. You're looking at 1.5 hour from detroit alone from 7a-9:30'ish and another 1.5 hour to Detroit from 4p-7p. Thats 3 hours a day not counting the bridge/tunnel or border which is another 30 minutes each way at best.
I commuted to Detroit all summer and hit only moderate traffic. Unlike every other big city, everyone leaves Detroit at rush hour and comes back at night.
Even leaving windsor at 5 am, I doubt you'll make it by 7-7:30. Then you're facing commute home. There just aren't enough hours in the day during 1/2L. Even if mapquest was accurate, you'd have another 20 min to the school from 94 and 2 hours a day isn't doable.
Edit: I'm home now so I'll elaborate more. It took me 30 minutes to get to my apt 3 miles from school, with no traffic. It took me 20-25 minutes to get to my car which is where you'd also have to park. That's 50 minuts a day before you start your commute. Add in an hour each way to Detroit, which is best case at 6 am/8pm, and you're at 3 hours a day commuting before the border crossing or your commute in Windsor. That's not sustainable. I'd be surprised if you made it across the border in less than 45 minutes. During the summer, there seemed to be constant bumper-to-bumper in the bridge/tunnel from 5a-10a or so. There is bumper-to-bumper traffic virtually the whole way from Detroit past AA (and back at night) at the times you'd be driving. Even reverse commuting it took us around an hour to Detroit, at non-rush hour times, from the highway where we met. Again, you'd have to add an hour of commuting within AA to that as well.
Also, I'm not sure why you'd have to live there but if it's cost, it'll cost more in fuel to sit in traffic that long each day than to rent an apt in AA. If it's commitments/spouse, best case is you'd leave home at 5 am and not get home until 10-11pm...every day. You could leave earlier and not read first, but then you'd have 4-5 hours of reading once you made it home. Again best case and not counting legal writing projects, needing to meet with your assigned writing group, officer hours, etc. Either way, you'd be better to stay in AA and buckle down and go home on the weekends which is when you'd have time to see anyone if you did live there.
Nor is that factoring in snow/weather. Michigan hasn't taken a snow day since the late 70s.
Thanks for the advice...yea it is a spousal reason - damn U.S. government does not recognize my marriage so my Canadian husband cannot live in the states long-term. I will have to talk with him about this, as we were thinking that I should get a place in AA for the mid-week days (like stay three nights or something in AA, the rest of the time commute). But thanks, this places things in perspective quite a bit...I'm used to the Buffalo/Niagara crossing, which I could get through in about ten minutes or so. Obviously, Windsor/Detroit is much different.
JoeMo wrote:ScrabbleChamp wrote:Has anyone else gone out and purchased a Michigan sweatshirt? By gone out, I of course mean sitting in the comfort of your home and ordering online.
Oh My God! You're too funny, I seriously have been contemplating but didn't know if it might come off cheesy. Especially since I haven't made my seat deposit.
ScrabbleChamp wrote:the only other school I'm seriously considering at this point is Berkeley, which hasn't admitted me. Even if I do get in to Berkeley, they don't handle scholarships (for vets) like Michigan does, so it would be much more financially advantageous to attend Michigan... plus, the summer start thing is awesome.
ScrabbleChamp wrote: if I don't get into Stanford or Berkeley, yes, I would seriously consider SCU.
Kurst wrote:ScrabbleChamp wrote:the only other school I'm seriously considering at this point is Berkeley, which hasn't admitted me. Even if I do get in to Berkeley, they don't handle scholarships (for vets) like Michigan does, so it would be much more financially advantageous to attend Michigan... plus, the summer start thing is awesome.
What about Santa Clara?ScrabbleChamp wrote: if I don't get into Stanford or Berkeley, yes, I would seriously consider SCU.
MichiganBound wrote:Summer starter checking in! I was able to log into ASW yesterday and received my offer letter today. So excited!
ScrabbleChamp wrote:MichiganBound wrote:Summer starter checking in! I was able to log into ASW yesterday and received my offer letter today. So excited!
What date does it show in the ASW that your packet was mailed? I wasn't able to get into ASW until yesterday, but it shows my mail date as approx. 11/30.
descartesb4thehorse wrote:ScrabbleChamp wrote:MichiganBound wrote:Summer starter checking in! I was able to log into ASW yesterday and received my offer letter today. So excited!
What date does it show in the ASW that your packet was mailed? I wasn't able to get into ASW until yesterday, but it shows my mail date as approx. 11/30.
Yesterday was 11/30.
ScrabbleChamp wrote:JoeMo wrote:ScrabbleChamp wrote:Has anyone else gone out and purchased a Michigan sweatshirt? By gone out, I of course mean sitting in the comfort of your home and ordering online.
Oh My God! You're too funny, I seriously have been contemplating but didn't know if it might come off cheesy. Especially since I haven't made my seat deposit.
Well, I haven't made the deposit, either, but the only other school I'm seriously considering at this point is Berkeley, which hasn't admitted me. Even if I do get in to Berkeley, they don't handle scholarships (for vets) like Michigan does, so it would be much more financially advantageous to attend Michigan... plus, the summer start thing is awesome.
And no, I don't think it is cheesy at all.
UnamSanctam wrote:In via ASW today. I'm ED and in UG, so I'm going to have about 3 weeks to get from the middle of Michigan to AA. Really excited, will be checking in for apartment information.
vellum wrote:I can't believe I haven't checked in here yet! It must have been a mid-excitement/celebration oversight.UnamSanctam wrote:In via ASW today. I'm ED and in UG, so I'm going to have about 3 weeks to get from the middle of Michigan to AA. Really excited, will be checking in for apartment information.
Likewise, Unam, but if it makes you feel any better about the rush: my move is from Florida to AA. That is one drive I am not looking forward to.
Part of Dean Z's personal note was that as a 2012 grad, the summer start timeline might be difficult for me. Of course, in typically helpful form, she mentioned that she would be happy to work with me on this, though I'm not entirely sure what that entails.
Other than the short period to move, the only other problem I can imagine arising from summer start would be the potential burn out of not having a summer break. Personally, I can't imagine this being a problem. Of course, Dean Z's message seemed terribly ominous, which instilled a slimmer of doubt in my previous confidence. Either way, I'm looking forward to meeting all the Summer Starters in late May!
blowhard wrote: That means she'd move you to fall start. I'd be a little worried. I'm a fall starter and most of us were burned out by xmas, and really burned out by May. I can't imagine doing 3 consecutive semesters, let alone doing 3 after a full year of UG.
blowhard wrote: That means she'd move you to fall start. I'd be a little worried. I'm a fall starter and most of us were burned out by xmas, and really burned out by May. I can't imagine doing 3 consecutive semesters, let alone doing 3 after a full year of UG.
Champion wrote:I'm coming straight out of UG and couldn't possibly fathom essentially going straight from UG to summer start at Mich.
It Depends wrote:does anyone know how much dean z will care about a previous enrollment at a different law school? my general stats seem to be competitive for mich (3.7, 171), but i'm worried admissions will think it strange that i decided to not go back to the original school i enrolled in. the reason i left in the first place was legit (serious illness, doctor verified), but deciding on a new school might make me appear capricious and too much of a "risk"
thoughts? suggestions on how to write an airtight addendum?
It Depends wrote:do you think leaving the original school will undermine my chances of acceptance, even if i give good reasons?
my concern is that the reasons are more a function of shifting priorities rather than a change in external circumstances, which might make it appear as though my decision to attend the original school was a poor judgment call. if this had happened in the distant past, i would be less concerned, but less than 4 months have elapsed since my original enrollment...
blowhard wrote:That means she'd move you to fall start.
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