Choose your own adventure

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Would you prefer...

Top of your class at T10?
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78%
Bottom of the class at YHS?
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22%
 
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JamesRandi
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Choose your own adventure

Postby JamesRandi » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:33 am

Well? Which is better?

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Rsrcht
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Rsrcht » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:34 am

ITE: T10% in T10.

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Brawndo
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Brawndo » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:41 am

How about Option 3: Just fucking pass at a T25+ and get my JD

Oh wait, I forgot this is TLS. HYS OR BUST!!!

absworkoutplan
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby absworkoutplan » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:35 am

I picked the first because those were the only choices, but the real answer would be somewhat qualified.

Bottom of the class at Yale > Top of the class at T10 > Bottom of the class at Harvard/Stanford.

Again, that's just what I would pick, not what would necessarily be "better" in a given situation.

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BruceBarr
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby BruceBarr » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:49 am

Brawndo wrote:How about Option 3: Just fucking pass at a T25+ and get my JD

Oh wait, I forgot this is TLS. HYS OR BUST!!!


pull that trigger.

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RudeDudewithAttitude
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby RudeDudewithAttitude » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:50 am

I think a lot of people would take $$ at a T10 over HYS if you could guarantee them top 10%. I know I would.

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Burberry by Burberry
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Burberry by Burberry » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:51 am

Ermmm... what is the "Bottom of the class" standard? Bottom 50%? Or bottom 10%? I'll consider bottom 50% at HYS over top 50% at CCN or top 33% at MVPB.

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby legends159 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:52 am

yale isn't some magical place insulated from problems. If there are problems facing H/S students, yale students feel them too. If you're screwed being in bottom 10% at H/S you're screwed being bottom 10% at Yale. Problem is no one can tell who is in the bottom 10% at Yale or Stanford. Probably can from Harvard if you have a bunch of LP. But still very hard to tell.

and HYS isn't some magical place compared to rest of T10. Id' argue that Top 10% at T10 > median at HYS.

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Foozle
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Foozle » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:54 am

I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.

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Rsrcht
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Rsrcht » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:57 am

Foozle wrote:I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.


How about:

If you chose the bottom of HYS, then:
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If you chose the top 10% at a T10, then:
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Vincent Vega
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Vincent Vega » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:12 am

Foozle wrote:I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.


titcr

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pany1985
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby pany1985 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:13 am

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Unadilla Kayaker
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Unadilla Kayaker » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:18 am

Foozle wrote:I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.


+1

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Unadilla Kayaker » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:19 am

pany1985 wrote:--ImageRemoved--


+1

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NewHere
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby NewHere » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:06 pm

I chose top 10% at a T10. Obviously if the choice were between top 10% at a T10 and top 10% at HYS, it would be a no-brainer in favor of HYS. But now it's a no-brainer the other way.

When you're in the top 10%, you have a much easier time getting onto law review, other journals, internships, clinics, etc. In addition, just the fact that you are at the top of your class makes you feel confident and more happy about school. In the bottom of the class (at any school), it's much harder psychologically. And in terms of jobs, the top 10% at at least some of the T10s gives you much better job opportunities than the bottom of HYS. Almost every top 10% T10 grad can get a good clerkship/V5 job/government position/PI position of his choice. (Barring bad luck or bad interview skills.) Not so at the bottom of HYS.

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Brawndo
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Brawndo » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:37 pm

Foozle wrote:I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.


Then there's no contract, because there was never a meeting of minds

EAT IT

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Vincent Vega
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Vincent Vega » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:11 pm

If I were a law firm HR rep, I would much rather hire top 10% at CCN than bottom 10% at HYS. The admissions process is imperfect, and to me a top 10% CCN is better prepared to be an excellent attorney than a bottom 10% HYS.

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby plum » Wed May 12, 2010 3:30 pm

legends159 wrote:Id' argue that Top 10% at T10 > median at HYS.


hmm really?

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby chicagolaw2013 » Wed May 12, 2010 3:54 pm

Rsrcht wrote:
Foozle wrote:I'd prefer an actual "Choose Your Own Adventure" book. I was lured by false promises.


How about:

If you chose the bottom of HYS, then:
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If you chose the top 10% at a T10, then:
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LOL at the Oregon Trail and Ducktales references.

jnorsky
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby jnorsky » Wed May 12, 2010 4:01 pm

plum wrote:
legends159 wrote:Id' argue that Top 10% at T10 > median at HYS.


hmm really?


No one even really knows who is median at HYS. There is a swath from 30% -70% that could be around the median. I would say that Top 10% at T-10 = or > median at HYS. This is from friends at HYS that have told me about what its like around median. Anyone that would rather be at the bottom of HYS then the top10% of a T-10 is an idiot.

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Bosque
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby Bosque » Wed May 12, 2010 4:27 pm

This is a silly question. Anyone choosing bottom of the class at HYS has some serious issues.

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby 270910 » Wed May 12, 2010 4:31 pm

plum wrote:
legends159 wrote:Id' argue that Top 10% at T10 > median at HYS.


hmm really?


By an enormous, enormous margin.

The legal profession is OBSESSED with being a pretend little meritocracy. So while there's much more leeway at a school like HYS, the big opportunities still go to the people at the top of the class.

Hell, I'd take top 10% at any T14 over top third at HS (maybe even Y, but Y is a bit different since I'm sure ranking is less meaningful there). Top of your class + national law school >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "also ran, didn't screw up" at HYS in every imaginable way.

BobSacamano
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby BobSacamano » Wed May 12, 2010 5:43 pm

Bosque wrote:This is a silly question. Anyone choosing bottom of the class at HYS has some serious issues.

Or is an 0L swayed by the almighty prestige.

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rowlf
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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby rowlf » Wed May 12, 2010 9:00 pm

I too was hoping for a real choose your own adventure.

Not sure why people are weighing S differently than Y here.

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Re: Choose your own adventure

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Wed May 12, 2010 9:07 pm

How do you even tell who is at the bottom of the class P/HP grading?




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