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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:07 pm 
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so i def got cold called, looked quite foolish, kinda stuttered until the prof gave me a disappointed look and moved on.

i swear to god if i don't finish at least in the top 1/3 of my class i'm killing all of you.

Dude, learn to do 5 min of prep before class in the event that you're called on to recite the facts.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:08 pm 
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So I've decided to follow a combination of this method, along with Arrow's. As I enter my third week, I'm feeling pretty good about using supplements to see the big picture. Right now, though, I'm sitting in contracts listening, for 35 minutes so far, to the professor ramble about the briefs he made us turn in last week. I've looked at his past finals and can't see any way that knowing all the details he insists we should know from each case will help, yet he's really trying to hammer the point home. Like in Lucy v. Zehmer, some of us didn't mention the waitress' testimony in the facts. Oooh, there I go down the curve.



i used case brief on Lucy v Zehmer, and it essentially told me the essence of the case was something on the line of "........emotional status at the time of the formation of contract was non-factor............if the actions at time were sufficient for a contract, it should up hold........",and that's what i got out reading the actual case too.

but my contract professor went through the details, called upon people with the details, acted out the details, and some people are typing down everything he's saying, and that got me worried that I am not getting enough out of the class.


i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.

Sick of people strokin the professor throughout the class. Elements of a gunner 1) raises his hand all the freakin time 2) brings up irrelevant topics 3) laughs at every joke 4) when other student asks a question, he/she tries to answer it before the professor does.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:15 pm 
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Hyder wrote:

i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.


I've often wondered what the hell people are typing. The keystrokes suddenly start like a torrential downpour, and the professor has only mentioned the color of his favorite socks. I have all my notes before class and maybe add 5-10 sentences to my notes during class -- and that's on a very thought provoking day.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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Hudda Budda wrote:
so i def got cold called, looked quite foolish, kinda stuttered until the prof gave me a disappointed look and moved on.

i swear to god if i don't finish at least in the top 1/3 of my class i'm killing all of you.


I usually try to pull up briefs from internet sources before class starts to jog my memory of the actual facts of the case. While the gunners are out in force during a class discussion is usually a great time to search the internet for a brief to the successive case.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:27 pm 
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God these supplements are starting to add up...but I'd rather buy them then have to deal with the library :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:46 pm 
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JPeavy44 wrote:
God these supplements are starting to add up...but I'd rather buy them then have to deal with the library :shock:


They do add up quick. Last year, I found that if I bought the newest edition they'd usually keep their value fairly well. I would always buy used ones in great condition on Amazon and not write in them. Then I could sell them again on Amazon and usually only lose a few bucks on each one.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:47 pm 
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pandacot wrote:
Hyder wrote:

i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.


I've often wondered what the hell people are typing. The keystrokes suddenly start like a torrential downpour, and the professor has only mentioned the color of his favorite socks. I have all my notes before class and maybe add 5-10 sentences to my notes during class -- and that's on a very thought provoking day.


Not all the gunfire is from note taking, at least not in my classes. It comes from gchat, email, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:50 pm 
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king3780 wrote:
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i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.


I've often wondered what the hell people are typing. The keystrokes suddenly start like a torrential downpour, and the professor has only mentioned the color of his favorite socks. I have all my notes before class and maybe add 5-10 sentences to my notes during class -- and that's on a very thought provoking day.


Not all the gunfire is from note taking, at least not in my classes. It comes from gchat, email, etc.
Yeah, seriously. Now I wonder if anybody in my Legal Practice class thought I was furiously taking notes today.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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relax boys and girls, i was kidding.

it had more to do with the fact that in the last class he had assigned a random page and i forgot all about it...so while i was prepared for the actual stuff listed on the syllabus, i was not for the random page.

i just wanted to be drama..


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:21 am 
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king3780 wrote:
pandacot wrote:
Hyder wrote:

i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.


I've often wondered what the hell people are typing. The keystrokes suddenly start like a torrential downpour, and the professor has only mentioned the color of his favorite socks. I have all my notes before class and maybe add 5-10 sentences to my notes during class -- and that's on a very thought provoking day.


Not all the gunfire is from note taking, at least not in my classes. It comes from gchat, email, etc.


the weird thing is that i visited a bunch of schools and the people were all gchatting, surfing etc., but i sit in the back of my classes and virtually NO ONE does this in my classes....weird


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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Hudda Budda wrote:
so i def got cold called, looked quite foolish, kinda stuttered until the prof gave me a disappointed look and moved on.

i swear to god if i don't finish at least in the top 1/3 of my class i'm killing all of you.


Same thing happened to me. I think the prof hates me now. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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Ok does anyone do the following?

While my classmates are meticulously briefing in the library, I'm doing a combination of wasting time on gchat and reading hornbooks, EEs, etc while taking notes on BLL.

Then at the end of the night I look at all the cases I need to have ready for tomorrow's class discussion. I pull up a canned brief on the case from google, paste it into my notes. I then quick skim the case. I reread the canned brief to make sure it doesn't suck, and I move on to the next case. Takes like 3-5 minutes per case.

In class, I just sit and screw around until the prof starts dropping bombs on BLL and copy that down.

Am I missing anything?

Also, I'm still waiting on some of my hornbooks and supplements to be delivered. IE I haven't started supp reading for a couple of my classes yet. I'm going to just dedicate an entire weekend to knocking this out. This shouldn't be too tough, should it? Especially considering we're moving at a snail's pace early semester.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:01 am 
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Lxw wrote:
Hudda Budda wrote:
so i def got cold called, looked quite foolish, kinda stuttered until the prof gave me a disappointed look and moved on.

i swear to god if i don't finish at least in the top 1/3 of my class i'm killing all of you.

Dude, learn to do 5 min of prep before class in the event that you're called on to recite the facts.


There are a lot of pointless details that get left out of case briefs that a prof can ask someone they cold call about. It's the sort of thing that indicates that someone definitely did not read the case, even if they know the important things to take away from it.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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JPeavy44 wrote:
God these supplements are starting to add up...but I'd rather buy them then have to deal with the library :shock:
FWIW I find that I'm much more efficient in studying when I have access to a necessary item only in the library than when I have it at home. It puts the pressure on to quit dawdling & make the most of every minute so I can get home at a reasonable hour. YMMV.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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Aeroplane wrote:
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God these supplements are starting to add up...but I'd rather buy them then have to deal with the library :shock:
FWIW I find that I'm much more efficient in studying when I have access to a necessary item only in the library than when I have it at home. It puts the pressure on to quit dawdling & make the most of every minute so I can get home at a reasonable hour. YMMV.


+1, those time limits they put on borrowing 'reserved' items really force you the reading/notetaking done.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:57 am 
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Aeroplane wrote:
JPeavy44 wrote:
God these supplements are starting to add up...but I'd rather buy them then have to deal with the library :shock:
FWIW I find that I'm much more efficient in studying when I have access to a necessary item only in the library than when I have it at home. It puts the pressure on to quit dawdling & make the most of every minute so I can get home at a reasonable hour. YMMV.


+1 for using the word "dawdling".


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:17 pm 
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gogators wrote:
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pandacot wrote:
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i never worry about what others are doing, as long as you can regergitate the concept and understand it, who gives a shit about what novel other students are writing. I swear some people type non stop, its like..calm down and actually listen and contemplate the lecture, you're not a freaking recording machine.


I've often wondered what the hell people are typing. The keystrokes suddenly start like a torrential downpour, and the professor has only mentioned the color of his favorite socks. I have all my notes before class and maybe add 5-10 sentences to my notes during class -- and that's on a very thought provoking day.


Not all the gunfire is from note taking, at least not in my classes. It comes from gchat, email, etc.


the weird thing is that i visited a bunch of schools and the people were all gchatting, surfing etc., but i sit in the back of my classes and virtually NO ONE does this in my classes....weird


yeah i have yet to see anyone in any of my classes doing this. it's crazy...i thought this was more common place?


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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Hudda Budda wrote:
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the weird thing is that i visited a bunch of schools and the people were all gchatting, surfing etc., but i sit in the back of my classes and virtually NO ONE does this in my classes....weird


yeah i have yet to see anyone in any of my classes doing this. it's crazy...i thought this was more common place?
When you visited schools it was probably 2nd semester. Or maybe even late 1st semester when people were not "on their toes" as much anymore. I think most people start off being like "I am gonna be 100% attentive" and then gradually slide downhill. Part might be laziness/distraction, but many are probably also getting better at distinguishing times when it's important to listen from times to tune out.


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i just have to be one of those people that can push through that urge and thus i win!


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i just have to be one of those people that can push through that urge and thus i win!

Yeah, I was thinking of trying to find an application to disable my wireless during set times of day (like during class). Does anything like that exist?


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Aeroplane wrote:
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i just have to be one of those people that can push through that urge and thus i win!

Yeah, I was thinking of trying to find an application to disable my wireless during set times of day (like during class). Does anything like that exist?


I know some internet filters have this capability. Their primary purpose is to filter porn, violence, etc., but you can also turn off the internet completely at specified times. The only way it will truly work, though, is if you have someone else do the password for it so you don't know it. Otherwise, it won't last long enough to be useful.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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I have never used a laptop that didn't have either a physical switch or a keyboard command to turn off all wireless radios. Look into that.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone else re-read the TLS "success in law school" after
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does anyone have link to Arrow's how success in law school advice?


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jrod wrote:
does anyone have link to Arrow's how success in law school advice?


Yes =P

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Can I get an analysis/examples/applications of restatement 2nd contracts via lexis nexis?

IF so..how


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