Pot smokers in law school

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby JazzOne » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:13 pm

ToadGoDead wrote:i just wanna say this, if there is one thing that i could do with my law degree, it would be to get marijuana legalized.

+1

Let's work on decriminalization first.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby JazzOne » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:17 pm

kn6542 wrote:
Pot doesn't make you stupid.


There are cannabinoid receptors located in the parts of the brain responsible for memory, problem solving, spatial orientation and perception, etc. How it affects those areas will vary because people's physiology varies, but it does have effects. Overstimulation of those receptors has also been linked to increased anxiety, depression, and psychosis.

I do find it odd that people would believe that a drug that reduces anxiety by influencing neurotransmitters would have NO rebound effect or cause any changes in affect.

Yet, occasional and moderate use of pot, like almost everything else, isn't such a problem. It's the people who do it every day who begin to have problems.

+1

When you overstimulate a cell's receptors, the cell responds by decreasing the number of receptors to re-establish its normal state. Habitual smoking most definitely alters your brain chemistry. Whether that's good or bad, I'll leave it to someone else to speculate.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby mikeytwoshoes » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:09 am

JazzOne wrote:
ToadGoDead wrote:i just wanna say this, if there is one thing that i could do with my law degree, it would be to get marijuana legalized.

+1

Let's work on decriminalization first.

What is the difference, really.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby ToadGoDead » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:16 am

mikeytwoshoes wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
ToadGoDead wrote:i just wanna say this, if there is one thing that i could do with my law degree, it would be to get marijuana legalized.

+1

Let's work on decriminalization first.

What is the difference, really.


decriminalization means that possession or whatever is not a criminal offense. you might have you stash confiscated and get a 100 dollar fine. legalization would take the form that alcohol is currenty in. you can possess it without getting any sort of fine. it is not illegal to consume alcohol, and the same should be the case for pot.

anyone been to amsterdam? no one fights there. who wants to fight when you have smoked ?

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby tetrahydrocannabinol » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:26 am

ToadGoDead wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
ToadGoDead wrote:i just wanna say this, if there is one thing that i could do with my law degree, it would be to get marijuana legalized.

+1

Let's work on decriminalization first.

What is the difference, really.


decriminalization means that possession or whatever is not a criminal offense. you might have you stash confiscated and get a 100 dollar fine. legalization would take the form that alcohol is currenty in. you can possess it without getting any sort of fine. it is not illegal to consume alcohol, and the same should be the case for pot.

anyone been to amsterdam? no one fights there. who wants to fight when you have smoked ?


Is paying what amounts to less then the cost of a parking ticket in certain areas really an issue? Decriminalization ain't bad.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby JazzOne » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:06 am

ToadGoDead wrote:
mikeytwoshoes wrote:
JazzOne wrote:
ToadGoDead wrote:i just wanna say this, if there is one thing that i could do with my law degree, it would be to get marijuana legalized.

+1

Let's work on decriminalization first.

What is the difference, really.


decriminalization means that possession or whatever is not a criminal offense. you might have you stash confiscated and get a 100 dollar fine. legalization would take the form that alcohol is currenty in. you can possess it without getting any sort of fine. it is not illegal to consume alcohol, and the same should be the case for pot.

anyone been to amsterdam? no one fights there. who wants to fight when you have smoked ?

This is an issue that has to be chipped away. Instant legalization might seem ideal from certain perspectives, but it's not practical, and it's not going to happen. Decriminalization can pave the road to legalization.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby saturnine » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:41 pm

Pot culture on campus and in the town/city is something I'm considering when looking at schools. It's not so important to me that I'd choose a school solely on this basis. Unfortunately not something you can generally get a feel for in a short visit (excepting say California), and I don't think many people are forthcoming about it such that I'll meet many stoners, huh?

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby PigNipple » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:04 pm

"Smokin', snortin', shootin', suckin', tokin', poppin', droppin'. . ."

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby mac.empress » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:42 am

saturnine wrote:Pot culture on campus and in the town/city is something I'm considering when looking at schools. It's not so important to me that I'd choose a school solely on this basis. Unfortunately not something you can generally get a feel for in a short visit (excepting say California), and I don't think many people are forthcoming about it such that I'll meet many stoners, huh?


My school is weed central! Awesome!

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby cutiewiddlebebe » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:54 pm

I've never used marijuana, but I support its legalization. Now that it is essentially legal in California, can those with a prescription card walk around campus with a joint? Or light up right outside the classroom after finishing a final? That would be weird to me, but also kind of neat to see.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby MC Southstar » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:55 pm

LOL @ this thread

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby bilbobaggins » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:05 pm

cutiewiddlebebe wrote:I've never used marijuana, but I support its legalization. Now that it is essentially legal in California, can those with a prescription card walk around campus with a joint? Or light up right outside the classroom after finishing a final? That would be weird to me, but also kind of neat to see.


No one I've spoken with is sure how the bar in CA deals with medical marijuana use, and I wouldn't know about other state bars, either. Thus, I don't know any law students who have medical cards. Not that this would preclude someone from lighting up outside of the school, but most students prefer to keep their marijuana use (if any) more private than that.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby mac.empress » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:04 am

"Brownies" help law students to de-stress.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby HJO » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:16 am

How does most bars view marijuana charges? Do they drug test anywhere prior to granting admission? I have never smoked it but I am curious about these what the possible ramifications of a charge could be.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby Sauer Grapes » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:21 am

Alfonso Soriano wrote:Your a retard.

:lol:

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby somewhatwayward » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:06 pm

Matthies wrote:
ToadGoDead wrote:
bilbobaggins wrote:The undercurrent of "pot makes school harder" in this thread just cracks me up.

Pot doesn't make you stupid.

Regular drinking is way worse for you than regular smoking.

A lot of these comments come from this weird, American place where we have this bizarre belief that there is some sort of 100% healthy standard and that we must optimize our lives in order to reach this standard. It's the sort of "oh shit I'll never take any risks because I might not get that $160k Skadden job and I'll have to settle for a V50 firm" that cracks me up and also makes me sad.

And yes, please pass the crack.


agreed. drinking alcohol is most likely the worst "drug" you can consume on a regular basis...


herion would get my vote


all these people who say heroin is the worst drug to consume on a regular basis.....how much experience do you have with it? (not disagreeing necessarily....but it sounds like all the people defending pot against its ignorant critics are now potentially becoming ignorant critics)

i'd go with alcohol in terms of the worst to consume regularly on a purely physical basis, especially if it is binge drinking.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby TigerBeer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:29 pm

Alcohol is definitely one of the more harmful drugs. You can die from alcohol withdrawal. You can also die from benzo withdrawals (Valium, Xanax). Heroin withdrawal won't kill you despite the popular Hollywood conception. Neither will cocaine. Marijuana withdrawal just makes you a bad-tempered insomniac for a week or two.

If I was only worried about my health I would drop alcohol completely and stick with weed. Unfortunately weed makes me anti-social and kills my productivity. Maybe when I'm retired like these guys: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1C5C7Q.DTL

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby pleasetryagain » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:31 pm

TigerBeer wrote:Heroin withdrawal won't kill you despite the popular Hollywood conception.


that is patently untrue.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby TigerBeer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:35 pm

pleasetryagain wrote:
TigerBeer wrote:Heroin withdrawal won't kill you despite the popular Hollywood conception.


that is patently untrue.


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all ... t-kill-you

You're somewhat correct. Still safer than alcohol though.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby engineer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:55 pm

somewhatwayward wrote:all these people who say heroin is the worst drug to consume on a regular basis.....how much experience do you have with it? (not disagreeing necessarily....but it sounds like all the people defending pot against its ignorant critics are now potentially becoming ignorant critics)

i'd go with alcohol in terms of the worst to consume regularly on a purely physical basis, especially if it is binge drinking.


Heroin is the worst drug ever. Before law school, and during undergrad, I worked full-time as a paramedic in a large city, and I can tell you with utmost certainty that nothing is worse than watching someone die from a heroin overdose. For what it's worth, two of the protocols for which I don't need to consult any guidebooks (for drug dosing and whatnot) are heroin overdoses (.5-1mg narcan slow iv push) and cardiac arrests.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby engineer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:59 pm

They should really just legalize it--it's safer than alcohol, and while I don't actually smoke, I don't mind being around friends who do. It's all about the freedom to make your own choices.
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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby jackster2 » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:02 pm

So, let me see if I understand. When applying to L school all criminal charges (not convictions) must be disclosed to see if you're "fit" to be a lawyer, but then smoking dope is ok? So, it isn't illegal behavior that determines "fitness" only getting caught?

No hypocrisy here?

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby A'nold » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:14 pm

Ken wrote:I think it depends upon the school. At Berkeley, about 10-15% were occasional smokers (maybe 5% much more frequent). At Harvard or Columbia, that number is likely much less. Definitely fewer pot smokers than in undergrad is the norm.

And law school was very informative for me as I learned in my first month that marijuana is actually illegal. I mean, who knew! :shock:


Not trying to be blasphemous and quote the all mighty Ken, but this reminded me of something. One of my professors told the class that his best friend left law school after the second year to grow pot out in the country and be a full time drug dealer. He said he lost contact w/ the dude after awhile but that for years he made bank and was living large, making fun of the professor for being a ls tool. Anyway, just a little anecdote that is keeping me away from outlining. :)

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby saltoftheearth » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:16 pm

engineer wrote:Heroin is the worst drug ever.


I agree. Ecstasy comes in at a close second.

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Re: Pot smokers in law school

Postby saltoftheearth » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:16 pm

A'nold wrote:
Ken wrote:I think it depends upon the school. At Berkeley, about 10-15% were occasional smokers (maybe 5% much more frequent). At Harvard or Columbia, that number is likely much less. Definitely fewer pot smokers than in undergrad is the norm.

And law school was very informative for me as I learned in my first month that marijuana is actually illegal. I mean, who knew! :shock:


Not trying to be blasphemous and quote the all mighty Ken, but this reminded me of something. One of my professors told the class that his best friend left law school after the second year to grow pot out in the country and be a full time drug dealer. He said he lost contact w/ the dude after awhile but that for years he made bank and was living large, making fun of the professor for being a ls tool. Anyway, just a little anecdote that is keeping me away from outlining. :)


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