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Shit Law

Postby FacePalm » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:55 am

Anyone care to define "Shit Law" (the search omits "shit")?

Thanks.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:56 am

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Re: Shit Law

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Re: Shit Law

Postby El Orance » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:23 am

depends:
autoadmit - any firm poster isn't bidding on at oci
anyone else - any firm that blows for all the reasons sealocust states; firms that advertise on tv

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Re: Shit Law

Postby Case2L » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:38 pm

FacePalm wrote:Anyone care to define "Shit Law" (the search omits "shit")?

Thanks.



My guess would be doc review or contract attorney for an ambulance chaser.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby LawandOrder » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:46 pm

Any private practice that isn't BigLaw.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby FacePalm » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:51 pm

LawandOrder wrote:Any private practice that isn't BigLaw.


Really?

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Re: Shit Law

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:53 pm

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Re: Shit Law

Postby robespierre2012 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:57 pm

you see, there are these people who have heard of this thing called 'biglaw.' they say it pays lots of money. they think if they don't 'get in,' then they will be in 'shitlaw,' where they won't make any money, and they will never become a real person.

thing is, they are 0L's who don't know anything about anything. their lives up until law school have been full of fantasy, because they still don't have a clue about reality.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby LawandOrder » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:58 pm

robespierre2012 wrote:you see, there are these people who have heard of this thing called 'biglaw.' they say it pays lots of money. they think if they don't 'get in,' then they will be in 'shitlaw,' where they won't make any money, and they will never become a real person.

thing is, they are 0L's who don't know anything about anything. their lives up until law school have been full of fantasy, because they still don't have a clue about reality.


My level 80 Night Elf says you're full of shit.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby Oblomov » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:01 pm

Right now, off the top of my head I'd say:


Akin Gump - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend), or March 2010 ($15,000 stipend); September 14, 2009 for some Houston associates
Allen & Overy - September 21, 2009
Alston & Bird - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Andrews Kurth LLP - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Arent Fox - November 1, 2009 for some; February 1, 2010 for others ($5,000 stipend)
Arnold & Porter - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 15, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Ballard Spahr - September 2010 ($45,000 stipend)
Baker Botts - November 16th, 2009 (Houston office)
Baker Hostetler - October 15, 2009
Baker & McKenzie - January 2010 (no stipend)
Bingham McCutchen - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Blank Rome - "deferred until at least January" 2010 with no information provided yet as to a definitive date or stipend
Bryan Cave - January 19, 2010 ($10k stipend)
Buchanan Ingersoll - February 2010
Cadwalader - October 5, 2009
Cahill Gordon - January 2010
Cleary - staggered options: September 14/ October 12/ November 9, 2009 or January 11, 2010
Clifford Chance - 20 incoming associates will start in January 2010 ($10,000 stipend); About 30 others will start in October 2010 (stipend of $3,335-$5,000 per month).
Chadbourne & Parke - January 2010
Cooley Godward Kronish - January 4, 2010. ($25,000 stipend, including bar stipend)
Covington & Burling - Any Monday after the bar exam
Cravath - October 2009, November 2009 or January 2010
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle - October 19, 2009
Davis Polk - September 14, October 19, or November 16, 2009
Davis Wright Tremaine - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Debevoise - 2009, baby! September 21, October 12, October 26, or November 16
Dechert - Splitting new associates into three groups starting Fall 2009; March 2010 ($17,500 stipend) and Fall 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Dewey & LeBoeuf - January 11, 2010 ($5,000 stipend)
DLA Piper - January 11, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Dorsey & Whitney - November 30, 2009
Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge - March 1, 2010
Faegre & Benson - October 2009 for some; January 2010 for others ($7,500 stipend)
Fenwick & West - has not yet announced
Finnegan - November 2, 2009
Fitzpatrick Cella - Associates can choose between Sept 21, 2009 and Oct 5, 2009
Foley Lardner - February 1, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Fried Frank - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend); Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Fulbright & Jaworski - January 11, 2010
Gibson Dunn - November 16 and November 30, 2009
Goldberg Kohn - "Indefinitely deferred," March 2010 at the earliest
Goodwin Procter - January 2010 for half of its 125 new associates; October 2010 for the rest ($60,000 stipend with pro bono work)
Greenberg Traurig - January 2010
Hogan & Hartson - November 30, 2009 or December 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Holland & Knight - January 11, 2010
Holme, Roberts & Owen - October 2010 (Can accept a one time payment of 15K or 30K in installments, contingent on accepting a public interest job)
Hunton & Williams - November 2009 (D.C. office); January 2010
Irell & Manella - As early as the week after the bar exam; November 1, 2009 at the latest
Jenner & Block - November 2009 (Chicago office)
Jones Day - October 26, 2009
K&L Gates - January 4, 2010
Katten - February 1, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Kaye Scholer - January 11, 2010
Kenyon & Kenyon - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Kilpatrick Stockton -- April 2010 ($17,000 stipend)
King & Spalding - January 19, 2010
Kirkland & Ellis - November 16 or 30, 2009
Kramer Levin - October 26, 2009
Latham - December 2009; October 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
LeClair Ryan - January 2010
Linklaters - September 2009
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell - January 2010 (no stipend, no health insurance, no salary advance)
Mayer Brown - January 19, 2010 ($5,000 monthly stipend and subsidized medical benefits during the deferral period); Also offering October 2010 deferral, with a $5K monthly stipend
McDermott Will & Emory - December 1, 2009
McGuire Woods - September 2009 (but salaries have been reduced from $160K to $145K)
Milbank Tweed - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Mintz Levin - January 11, 2010 ($15,000 salary advance)
Morgan Lewis - October 2010
Morrison & Foerster - November 2, 2009 for some; April 2010 for others ($5,000/month stipend); OR defer to January 2011 ($5k/month + $15,000 if you work for a non-profit)
Munger, Tolles & Olson - 2009! (Any Monday after the bar exam)
O'Melveny & [deleted] - December 2009
Orrick - January 2010; March 2010; or Winter 2010 ( $60,000 "honorarium")
Nixon Peabody - January 2010
Paul Hastings - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend, optional health insurance coverage)
Paul Weiss - September 14, 2009
Pepper Hamilton January 19, 2010
Perkins Coie - January 4, 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Pillsbury - has not yet announced
Proskauer Rose - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 2010 ($20,000 stipend), or pro bono deferral option with start date of January 2011 ($60,000 stipend)
Quarles & Brady‏ - January 2010
Quinn Emanuel - 2009, any Monday after the bar exam
Ropes & Gray - January 2010 (no stipend)
Schulte Roth & Zabel - January 28, 2010 ($20k stipend); Limited number of public interest deferrals until Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Seyfarth Shaw - October 19, 2009 "2010"
Shearman & Sterling - December 2009 at the earliest, or September 2010 with a $65,000 deferral stipend
Sidley Austin - November 2 or November 16, 2009; OR deferral to January 3, 2011 ($75,000 stipend)
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - September 21, October 26, and November 30, 2009
Skadden - October 2009
Snell & Wilmer, LLP - December 2009 ($5,000 stipend)
Sonnenschein - 20 associates have start dates between September 2009 and Fall 2010 ($5,000 stipend), but nine have been deferred to January 2011 (a paltry $10,000 stipend!)
Squire Sanders - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Steptoe & Johnson - has not yet announced
Stroock - January 2010 or January 2011 ($50,000 stipend); OR $75,000 to just go away
Sullivan & Cromwell - November 2, 2009
Sutherland - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Troutman Sanders - January 2010 (no stipend and no health insurance)
Venable - January 2010
Vinson & Elkins - November 2, 2009 or January 4, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Wachtell - September 14 or October 12, 2009; November 2, 2009 for clerks only
Weil Gotshal - January 2010 ($15,000 deferral stipend); January 2011 for others ($75,000 stipend)
White & Case - November 2009 for 40% of new associates; 2010 for the rest (with a $45,000 stipend, or a $75,000 stipend if they pursue volunteer or community service during the deferral period)
Wiley Rein - January 11, 2010 for some; October 2010 for others with $5K/month stipend
Willkie Farr - September 14, October 12, or November 23, 2009
WilmerHale - January 20 or March 17, 2010 ($10k stipend for Jan,; $15k stipend for March); also offering $75,000 stipend with fall 2010 deferral option
Wilson Sonsini - January, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Winstead - February, 2010
Winston and Strawn - January 19, 2010 ($15k stipend + health insurance)

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Re: Shit Law

Postby GodFatherPENNington » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:03 pm

damn

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Re: Shit Law

Postby cbreault » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:03 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitlaw


From "shitlaw" urban dictionary entry: "When you see the sleazeball ambulance chasers on tv advertising their legal services, that is shitlaw."

I would have to disagree with this. The plaintiff's lawyers I see on TV are like Ken Nugent (aka, "the strong arm," from his commercials), guys who have made MILLIONS of dollars as trial lawyers. I don't know if I would be calling the work of any attorney who makes that much money "shit." Isn't the money the whole justification for why work in Biglaw isn't shitlaw, I mean, it's the most boring, tedious, dehumanizing work there is, but it's not shitlaw because of the money.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby cbreault » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:06 pm

thesealocust wrote:
FacePalm wrote:
LawandOrder wrote:Any private practice that isn't BigLaw.


Really?


Your first year out of law school? More likely than not.

In general? Hardly.


How could something be "More likely than not" and "Hardly" be "In general"?

EDIT: For context. Inappropriate use of Ebonics.
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Re: Shit Law

Postby Snooker » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:10 pm

Wow that poster be criticizing other people's grammar in ebonics.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby cbreault » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:11 pm

Snooker wrote:Wow that poster be criticizing other people's grammar in ebonics.


Dat how I be doin it, fo' sho.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby bigben » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:21 pm

cbreault wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
FacePalm wrote:
LawandOrder wrote:Any private practice that isn't BigLaw.


Really?


Your first year out of law school? More likely than not.

In general? Hardly.


How could something be "More likely than not" and "Hardly" be "In general"?




Because right out of law school is different than law in general?

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Re: Shit Law

Postby bigben » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:22 pm

Oblomov wrote:Right now, off the top of my head I'd say:


Akin Gump - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend), or March 2010 ($15,000 stipend); September 14, 2009 for some Houston associates
Allen & Overy - September 21, 2009
Alston & Bird - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Andrews Kurth LLP - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Arent Fox - November 1, 2009 for some; February 1, 2010 for others ($5,000 stipend)
Arnold & Porter - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 15, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Ballard Spahr - September 2010 ($45,000 stipend)
Baker Botts - November 16th, 2009 (Houston office)
Baker Hostetler - October 15, 2009
Baker & McKenzie - January 2010 (no stipend)
Bingham McCutchen - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Blank Rome - "deferred until at least January" 2010 with no information provided yet as to a definitive date or stipend
Bryan Cave - January 19, 2010 ($10k stipend)
Buchanan Ingersoll - February 2010
Cadwalader - October 5, 2009
Cahill Gordon - January 2010
Cleary - staggered options: September 14/ October 12/ November 9, 2009 or January 11, 2010
Clifford Chance - 20 incoming associates will start in January 2010 ($10,000 stipend); About 30 others will start in October 2010 (stipend of $3,335-$5,000 per month).
Chadbourne & Parke - January 2010
Cooley Godward Kronish - January 4, 2010. ($25,000 stipend, including bar stipend)
Covington & Burling - Any Monday after the bar exam
Cravath - October 2009, November 2009 or January 2010
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle - October 19, 2009
Davis Polk - September 14, October 19, or November 16, 2009
Davis Wright Tremaine - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Debevoise - 2009, baby! September 21, October 12, October 26, or November 16
Dechert - Splitting new associates into three groups starting Fall 2009; March 2010 ($17,500 stipend) and Fall 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Dewey & LeBoeuf - January 11, 2010 ($5,000 stipend)
DLA Piper - January 11, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Dorsey & Whitney - November 30, 2009
Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge - March 1, 2010
Faegre & Benson - October 2009 for some; January 2010 for others ($7,500 stipend)
Fenwick & West - has not yet announced
Finnegan - November 2, 2009
Fitzpatrick Cella - Associates can choose between Sept 21, 2009 and Oct 5, 2009
Foley Lardner - February 1, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Fried Frank - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend); Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Fulbright & Jaworski - January 11, 2010
Gibson Dunn - November 16 and November 30, 2009
Goldberg Kohn - "Indefinitely deferred," March 2010 at the earliest
Goodwin Procter - January 2010 for half of its 125 new associates; October 2010 for the rest ($60,000 stipend with pro bono work)
Greenberg Traurig - January 2010
Hogan & Hartson - November 30, 2009 or December 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Holland & Knight - January 11, 2010
Holme, Roberts & Owen - October 2010 (Can accept a one time payment of 15K or 30K in installments, contingent on accepting a public interest job)
Hunton & Williams - November 2009 (D.C. office); January 2010
Irell & Manella - As early as the week after the bar exam; November 1, 2009 at the latest
Jenner & Block - November 2009 (Chicago office)
Jones Day - October 26, 2009
K&L Gates - January 4, 2010
Katten - February 1, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Kaye Scholer - January 11, 2010
Kenyon & Kenyon - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Kilpatrick Stockton -- April 2010 ($17,000 stipend)
King & Spalding - January 19, 2010
Kirkland & Ellis - November 16 or 30, 2009
Kramer Levin - October 26, 2009
Latham - December 2009; October 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
LeClair Ryan - January 2010
Linklaters - September 2009
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell - January 2010 (no stipend, no health insurance, no salary advance)
Mayer Brown - January 19, 2010 ($5,000 monthly stipend and subsidized medical benefits during the deferral period); Also offering October 2010 deferral, with a $5K monthly stipend
McDermott Will & Emory - December 1, 2009
McGuire Woods - September 2009 (but salaries have been reduced from $160K to $145K)
Milbank Tweed - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Mintz Levin - January 11, 2010 ($15,000 salary advance)
Morgan Lewis - October 2010
Morrison & Foerster - November 2, 2009 for some; April 2010 for others ($5,000/month stipend); OR defer to January 2011 ($5k/month + $15,000 if you work for a non-profit)
Munger, Tolles & Olson - 2009! (Any Monday after the bar exam)
O'Melveny & [deleted] - December 2009
Orrick - January 2010; March 2010; or Winter 2010 ( $60,000 "honorarium")
Nixon Peabody - January 2010
Paul Hastings - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend, optional health insurance coverage)
Paul Weiss - September 14, 2009
Pepper Hamilton January 19, 2010
Perkins Coie - January 4, 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Pillsbury - has not yet announced
Proskauer Rose - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 2010 ($20,000 stipend), or pro bono deferral option with start date of January 2011 ($60,000 stipend)
Quarles & Brady‏ - January 2010
Quinn Emanuel - 2009, any Monday after the bar exam
Ropes & Gray - January 2010 (no stipend)
Schulte Roth & Zabel - January 28, 2010 ($20k stipend); Limited number of public interest deferrals until Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Seyfarth Shaw - October 19, 2009 "2010"
Shearman & Sterling - December 2009 at the earliest, or September 2010 with a $65,000 deferral stipend
Sidley Austin - November 2 or November 16, 2009; OR deferral to January 3, 2011 ($75,000 stipend)
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - September 21, October 26, and November 30, 2009
Skadden - October 2009
Snell & Wilmer, LLP - December 2009 ($5,000 stipend)
Sonnenschein - 20 associates have start dates between September 2009 and Fall 2010 ($5,000 stipend), but nine have been deferred to January 2011 (a paltry $10,000 stipend!)
Squire Sanders - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Steptoe & Johnson - has not yet announced
Stroock - January 2010 or January 2011 ($50,000 stipend); OR $75,000 to just go away
Sullivan & Cromwell - November 2, 2009
Sutherland - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Troutman Sanders - January 2010 (no stipend and no health insurance)
Venable - January 2010
Vinson & Elkins - November 2, 2009 or January 4, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Wachtell - September 14 or October 12, 2009; November 2, 2009 for clerks only
Weil Gotshal - January 2010 ($15,000 deferral stipend); January 2011 for others ($75,000 stipend)
White & Case - November 2009 for 40% of new associates; 2010 for the rest (with a $45,000 stipend, or a $75,000 stipend if they pursue volunteer or community service during the deferral period)
Wiley Rein - January 11, 2010 for some; October 2010 for others with $5K/month stipend
Willkie Farr - September 14, October 12, or November 23, 2009
WilmerHale - January 20 or March 17, 2010 ($10k stipend for Jan,; $15k stipend for March); also offering $75,000 stipend with fall 2010 deferral option
Wilson Sonsini - January, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Winstead - February, 2010
Winston and Strawn - January 19, 2010 ($15k stipend + health insurance)



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Re: Shit Law

Postby starstruck393 » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:27 pm

zettsscores40 wrote:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shitlaw


When I clicked on that link, there were 4 advertisements for the law offices of Sam Bernstein: irony...

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Re: Shit Law

Postby thesealocust » Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:30 pm

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Re: Shit Law

Postby cbreault » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:06 pm

bigben wrote:

Because right out of law school is different than law in general?


Right, I think I misinterpreted what the "in general" was referring to. I took it as referring to out of law school jobs in general, but I think thesealocust was referring to all legal jobs.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby TheBigMediocre » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:10 pm

Oblomov wrote:Right now, off the top of my head I'd say:


LIST


Dear god.

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Re: Shit Law

Postby GATORTIM » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:15 pm

Oblomov wrote:Right now, off the top of my head I'd say:


Akin Gump - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend), or March 2010 ($15,000 stipend); September 14, 2009 for some Houston associates
Allen & Overy - September 21, 2009
Alston & Bird - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Andrews Kurth LLP - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Arent Fox - November 1, 2009 for some; February 1, 2010 for others ($5,000 stipend)
Arnold & Porter - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 15, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Ballard Spahr - September 2010 ($45,000 stipend)
Baker Botts - November 16th, 2009 (Houston office)
Baker Hostetler - October 15, 2009
Baker & McKenzie - January 2010 (no stipend)
Bingham McCutchen - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Blank Rome - "deferred until at least January" 2010 with no information provided yet as to a definitive date or stipend
Bryan Cave - January 19, 2010 ($10k stipend)
Buchanan Ingersoll - February 2010
Cadwalader - October 5, 2009
Cahill Gordon - January 2010
Cleary - staggered options: September 14/ October 12/ November 9, 2009 or January 11, 2010
Clifford Chance - 20 incoming associates will start in January 2010 ($10,000 stipend); About 30 others will start in October 2010 (stipend of $3,335-$5,000 per month).
Chadbourne & Parke - January 2010
Cooley Godward Kronish - January 4, 2010. ($25,000 stipend, including bar stipend)
Covington & Burling - Any Monday after the bar exam
Cravath - October 2009, November 2009 or January 2010
Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle - October 19, 2009
Davis Polk - September 14, October 19, or November 16, 2009
Davis Wright Tremaine - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Debevoise - 2009, baby! September 21, October 12, October 26, or November 16
Dechert - Splitting new associates into three groups starting Fall 2009; March 2010 ($17,500 stipend) and Fall 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Dewey & LeBoeuf - January 11, 2010 ($5,000 stipend)
DLA Piper - January 11, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Dorsey & Whitney - November 30, 2009
Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge - March 1, 2010
Faegre & Benson - October 2009 for some; January 2010 for others ($7,500 stipend)
Fenwick & West - has not yet announced
Finnegan - November 2, 2009
Fitzpatrick Cella - Associates can choose between Sept 21, 2009 and Oct 5, 2009
Foley Lardner - February 1, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Fried Frank - January 28, 2010 ($10,000 stipend); Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Fulbright & Jaworski - January 11, 2010
Gibson Dunn - November 16 and November 30, 2009
Goldberg Kohn - "Indefinitely deferred," March 2010 at the earliest
Goodwin Procter - January 2010 for half of its 125 new associates; October 2010 for the rest ($60,000 stipend with pro bono work)
Greenberg Traurig - January 2010
Hogan & Hartson - November 30, 2009 or December 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
Holland & Knight - January 11, 2010
Holme, Roberts & Owen - October 2010 (Can accept a one time payment of 15K or 30K in installments, contingent on accepting a public interest job)
Hunton & Williams - November 2009 (D.C. office); January 2010
Irell & Manella - As early as the week after the bar exam; November 1, 2009 at the latest
Jenner & Block - November 2009 (Chicago office)
Jones Day - October 26, 2009
K&L Gates - January 4, 2010
Katten - February 1, 2010 ($15,000 stipend)
Kaye Scholer - January 11, 2010
Kenyon & Kenyon - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Kilpatrick Stockton -- April 2010 ($17,000 stipend)
King & Spalding - January 19, 2010
Kirkland & Ellis - November 16 or 30, 2009
Kramer Levin - October 26, 2009
Latham - December 2009; October 2010 ($75,000 stipend)
LeClair Ryan - January 2010
Linklaters - September 2009
Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell - January 2010 (no stipend, no health insurance, no salary advance)
Mayer Brown - January 19, 2010 ($5,000 monthly stipend and subsidized medical benefits during the deferral period); Also offering October 2010 deferral, with a $5K monthly stipend
McDermott Will & Emory - December 1, 2009
McGuire Woods - September 2009 (but salaries have been reduced from $160K to $145K)
Milbank Tweed - January 25, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Mintz Levin - January 11, 2010 ($15,000 salary advance)
Morgan Lewis - October 2010
Morrison & Foerster - November 2, 2009 for some; April 2010 for others ($5,000/month stipend); OR defer to January 2011 ($5k/month + $15,000 if you work for a non-profit)
Munger, Tolles & Olson - 2009! (Any Monday after the bar exam)
O'Melveny & [deleted] - December 2009
Orrick - January 2010; March 2010; or Winter 2010 ( $60,000 "honorarium")
Nixon Peabody - January 2010
Paul Hastings - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend, optional health insurance coverage)
Paul Weiss - September 14, 2009
Pepper Hamilton January 19, 2010
Perkins Coie - January 4, 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Pillsbury - has not yet announced
Proskauer Rose - January 2010 ($10,000 stipend) or March 2010 ($20,000 stipend), or pro bono deferral option with start date of January 2011 ($60,000 stipend)
Quarles & Brady‏ - January 2010
Quinn Emanuel - 2009, any Monday after the bar exam
Ropes & Gray - January 2010 (no stipend)
Schulte Roth & Zabel - January 28, 2010 ($20k stipend); Limited number of public interest deferrals until Fall 2010 ($70,000 stipend)
Seyfarth Shaw - October 19, 2009 "2010"
Shearman & Sterling - December 2009 at the earliest, or September 2010 with a $65,000 deferral stipend
Sidley Austin - November 2 or November 16, 2009; OR deferral to January 3, 2011 ($75,000 stipend)
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett - September 21, October 26, and November 30, 2009
Skadden - October 2009
Snell & Wilmer, LLP - December 2009 ($5,000 stipend)
Sonnenschein - 20 associates have start dates between September 2009 and Fall 2010 ($5,000 stipend), but nine have been deferred to January 2011 (a paltry $10,000 stipend!)
Squire Sanders - January 19, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Steptoe & Johnson - has not yet announced
Stroock - January 2010 or January 2011 ($50,000 stipend); OR $75,000 to just go away
Sullivan & Cromwell - November 2, 2009
Sutherland - January 2010 ($7,500 stipend)
Troutman Sanders - January 2010 (no stipend and no health insurance)
Venable - January 2010
Vinson & Elkins - November 2, 2009 or January 4, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Wachtell - September 14 or October 12, 2009; November 2, 2009 for clerks only
Weil Gotshal - January 2010 ($15,000 deferral stipend); January 2011 for others ($75,000 stipend)
White & Case - November 2009 for 40% of new associates; 2010 for the rest (with a $45,000 stipend, or a $75,000 stipend if they pursue volunteer or community service during the deferral period)
Wiley Rein - January 11, 2010 for some; October 2010 for others with $5K/month stipend
Willkie Farr - September 14, October 12, or November 23, 2009
WilmerHale - January 20 or March 17, 2010 ($10k stipend for Jan,; $15k stipend for March); also offering $75,000 stipend with fall 2010 deferral option
Wilson Sonsini - January, 2010 ($10,000 stipend)
Winstead - February, 2010
Winston and Strawn - January 19, 2010 ($15k stipend + health insurance)


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Re: Shit Law

Postby ArkansasFan » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:18 am

What's the obsession with "big law?" Is it because you think you'll make a lot of money? Is it because you simply do whatever you're paid to do, i.e. hired gun? What kind of "big law" are you looking for? Is that civil, corporate, criminal...?

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Re: Shit Law

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