studymaster wrote: Snooker wrote: studymaster wrote:
TheJudge wrote:Chinese. Just because China seems to be one of the least English-fluent regions in the world. Also, their legal market will continue growing tremendously over the next decade or a little longer. So Chinese would help if you want to work there or even set up your own little firm over there.
*cough* BS *cough*
I lived in China. Calling it an english-fluent region is a joke. If 1 million Chinese learn english, maybe 10 of them will ever be fluent.
Ok sparky. I NEVER called it english fluent. EVER. Rather I contested that is was one of the LEAST english fluent places. This is comparative, your statement is based on absolute level of fluency... see the disconnect?
He said english-fluent, you said BS, I supported his original contention. I didn't offer a measure of absolute fluency - there is no such thing - but demographic ability with the language overall. Though in my opinion, Chinese would be of more help to helping Chinese multinationals set up operations running through the US. Lenovo is a good example (partner of IBM), as is HTC (microsoft products), or Hon Hai (iphones). Sinopec and China Oil base their western hemisphere operations in Houston. There's way more work than Chinese-speaking attorneys, and NO Chinese-born lawyer is willing to appear in US court on behalf of a big corporate client. They will always find an American to do that.
Chinese helps in getting business, too. I can make a room of perfect strangers explode into astonished gasps, applause, and cries of "he's so amazing!" with a few words. I posted another thread here on TLS with some Chinese and a Chinese poster suggested "Chinese must idolize you for this ability". Community leaders in Chinatown hold me up as some model for immigrants' children to follow. Inspiring respect and admiration is among the most powerful of sales & marketing tools. I made friends with the next Australian ambassador to Taiwan and learned about how they use former Chinese diplomats turned politicians in negotiations with a "surprise introduction" in Chinese to put shock-and-awe on the table. Chinese can't do that, it's got to be a local boy.
Mandarin will be very useful for any firm that deals with Chinese clients. Ideally, they'll want to make a team of Chinese natives and CSL lawyers to maximize their comparative advantages. Chinese-native attorneys tend not to meet even the basic qualifications for biglaw, the language and culture are just radically different and even basic cultural terms like "utilitarian justice" are warped by Chinese dictionaries into "base profiteering justice".
2nd generation Chinese are not native speaker proficiency. They usually have the abilities a white student would have after 6 months of intensive study (by Berkeley, Stanford, and Princeton's metrics), unless they attended Chinese school, at which point it's 8 months.