Gunner Bingo

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AVSexton
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby AVSexton » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:12 pm

Having valuable insight in class is really only important if you're going to need LOR from professors. Those of us with dreams of transferring to the T14 from our T1s will have to strike the balance between Douchebag Gunner and "The guy that never says anything".

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby helfer snooterbagon » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:14 pm

You can visit the professor in office hours and get to know him/her. Also, if you get the highest grade in the class it will speak far louder than any LOR.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby mumbling2myself » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:16 pm

AVSexton wrote:Having valuable insight in class is really only important if you're going to need LOR from professors. Those of us with dreams of transferring to the T14 from our T1s will have to strike the balance between Douchebag Gunner and "The guy that never says anything".


If you want a LOR from a prof, being a gunner is a piss poor way to go about it. Do the work, be well prepared, and ask questions when you really want to know the answer (and have actually thought about it a little). Talking to prof after classes will be good too. If you can talk to a prof after class a few times during the semester and show some genuine interest in the subject and the course, it'll look far better than the constant barrage of god knows what that gets most gunners their poor reputations.

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Harvey Dent
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby Harvey Dent » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:17 pm

I saw this a while back at LSD...guy speaking to some gunner I guess:

Topic: Jomulunga, please stop wasting everyone else's time
Hey dude,

I speak for most people in our section. Please stop wasting our time.

Think about what you are doing when you talk for 2 minutes, 5 times a day: you are taking up 10 minutes every day. There are 90 other people in our section. We pay about 100$ per class hour, so:

10 min x 1.66(cost of 1 class minute, per person) = 16.6$/day/person.

That means, dude, you are wasting about 15$ of my money every day you show up for class. Now...

16.6$/day x 90 = $1,494. This means that you waste about $1500 dollars of OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY EVERY DAY in which you talk for 10 minutes during class.

now, dude, if you are wasting 1,500$ every time we have a full day of classes...
and we have full class days 3 times a week, for 14 weeks...

1,500$ x 3 = 4,500$
4,500$ x 14 = 63,000$.

This means, over the course of the semester, if you continue at your pace, you are going to waste

$63,000 OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY.

Your comments are rarely valid, and most people completely tune them out everytime they hear your voice. Offering competing hypotheticals just makes you look like an ass. If you want to dominate all discussions, OPEN UP YOUR OWN LAW SCHOOL. We know you are a non-trad, and we are glad that you have extensive experience in other fields. And (non-sarcastically) I have a lot of respect for you for going to Iraq. However, it is interesting that I know all these things about you solely through class discussion. I shouldn't. Dude, just shut up and stop wasting other people's money.


http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/students/index.php/topic,3002828.0.html

AVSexton
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby AVSexton » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:19 pm

Well, not all schools do numerical ranking.

Wisconsin, for example, does class rank based on a GPA table that accounts for the previous three years. So, if a 3.4 averaged over the past 3 years would put you in the top 20%, for example, that is the class rank you are allowed to claim. They only do intervals of 5%.

The only exception is that they give the top 10 rising 3Ls their exact standing, so that they can be more competative for federal clerkships.

Grades are obviously the most important measure, but coming from a middle-of-the-road T1 such as Wisconsin, I have 20 schools worth of top 10% students that I need to out-shine to make it in to the T14. LOR are important.


I simply don't buy the idea that you're a douchebag if you participate in class. I recognize the difference between being a gunner and being an insightful member of class, but it seems like anyone who volunteers any information at ALL can be labeled a gunner.

Edit- it seems like I've been misunderstood. I'm not advocating being a gunner, just saying that participating in class isn't automatically a bad thing, as long as it is appropriate.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby 06072010 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:21 pm

We played "fantasy gunner" with pre-semester drafts. Couldn't select yourself.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby RATRATRAT » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:22 pm

haha, That sounds like a good alt. now that bingo is off limits.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby EmmyD » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:23 pm

I simply don't buy the idea that you're a douchebag if you participate in class. I recognize the difference between being a gunner and being an insightful member of class, but it seems like anyone who volunteers any information at ALL can be labeled a gunner.


Credited. That's what worries me.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby Amory Blaine » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:28 pm

Ok so rather than, "If you can't spot the gunner, it's you" let's say "If you're that worried about being the gunner, it's you."

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EmmyD
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby EmmyD » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:39 pm

Damn.

S.Toppel
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby S.Toppel » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:44 pm

some of my classmates played gunner bingo during 1L. unsurprisingly, they came off as far bigger douchebags than the "gunners" they ridiculed.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby orangeswarm » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:47 pm

^^^ That's what all the gunners say. :D

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sjk
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby sjk » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:47 pm

they came off as douchebags to who? other douchebags?
people were probably just pissed they werent invited to play.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby KP429 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:52 pm

Lol, I love the "OPEN UP YOUR OWN LAW SCHOOL" line.

Gunners definitely don't exist only in law school. The concept of 'Gunner Bingo' is HILARIOUS. Good god, I need to get some friends to play this at college. From my own experience, the students in my discussion sections who are the most quiet/rarely say anything insightful are the ones with the best grades.

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Son of Cicero
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby Son of Cicero » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:54 pm

sjk wrote:they came off as douchebags to who? other douchebags?
people were probably just pissed they werent invited to play.

I think this is a funny idea, but it's pretty easy to see how it could contribute to douchiness in the classroom. It would be annoying to see the players always looking around at each other and winking whenever a gunner would speak.

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby SebastianGould » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:02 pm

AVSexton will be the typical delusional gunner who won't know when to shut the hell up. What gunner doesn't think that their worthless questions/insight are not contributing to the classroom discussion.

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GaiijinLawyer
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby GaiijinLawyer » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:03 pm

I think the best would be as soon as a gunner starts one of his irrelevant comments for someone to just stand up/yell out BINGO!!! BINGO!!! YES!!! I WIN AT GUNNER BINGO! HAHA! I KNEW I YOU WERE MY BEST BET!

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby 06072010 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:04 pm

It was a pain in the ass to calculate Fantasy Gunner points. Dssinc's section played a game where you had to get the professor to say a crazy word, or for you to say a crazy word in class.

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sjk
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby sjk » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:04 pm

GaiijinLawyer wrote:I think the best would be as soon as a gunner starts one of his irrelevant comments for someone to just stand up/yell out BINGO!!! BINGO!!! YES!!! I WIN AT GUNNER BINGO! HAHA! I KNEW I YOU WERE MY BEST BET!


HAHAHA

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thespinstartshere
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby thespinstartshere » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:05 pm

My philosophy is as follows: If the professor asks for a volunteer and no one else raises their hand, I will volunteer myself so long as I have an intelligent answer to the question. I will not speak just to hear the sound of my own voice, but in the same respect, I see no need to leave the professor waiting for a response that may or may not come from elsewhere in the class. I simply fail to see how this would make me a gunner, although my spirit will not be crushed if someone decides to put my name on a bingo card. In fact, I will be happy to sell my speaking services to any classmates for a cut of their bingo winnings.

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sjk
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby sjk » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:07 pm

thespinstartshere wrote:My philosophy is as follows: If the professor asks for a volunteer and no one else raises their hand, I will volunteer myself so long as I have an intelligent answer to the question. I will not speak just to hear the sound of my own voice, but in the same respect, I see no need to leave the professor waiting for a response that may or may not come from elsewhere in the class. I simply fail to see how this would make me a gunner, although my spirit will not be crushed if someone decides to put my name on a bingo card. In fact, I will be happy to sell my speaking services to any classmates for a cut of their bingo winnings.


Um then you are not a gunner!!!

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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby SebastianGould » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:08 pm

^^^ Not a gunner

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thespinstartshere
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby thespinstartshere » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:10 pm

sjk wrote:
thespinstartshere wrote:My philosophy is as follows: If the professor asks for a volunteer and no one else raises their hand, I will volunteer myself so long as I have an intelligent answer to the question. I will not speak just to hear the sound of my own voice, but in the same respect, I see no need to leave the professor waiting for a response that may or may not come from elsewhere in the class. I simply fail to see how this would make me a gunner, although my spirit will not be crushed if someone decides to put my name on a bingo card. In fact, I will be happy to sell my speaking services to any classmates for a cut of their bingo winnings.


Um then you are not a gunner!!!


Well, then, that certainly is a load off of my shoulders. Now pass me a gunner bingo card so I can make fun of these dbags as well. :D

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Son of Cicero
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby Son of Cicero » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:11 pm

GaiijinLawyer wrote:I think the best would be as soon as a gunner starts one of his irrelevant comments for someone to just stand up/yell out BINGO!!! BINGO!!! YES!!! I WIN AT GUNNER BINGO! HAHA! I KNEW I YOU WERE MY BEST BET!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

tsukasa
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Re: Gunner Bingo

Postby tsukasa » Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:14 pm

are law school grades based more on class participation/ essays/ exams?




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