GodSpeed wrote:Concur. You'll all be equally retarded and full of yourselves when you arrive, regardless of the course you took
Are you in law school? Or do you work for a law school to have such directed opinions?
GodSpeed wrote:Concur. You'll all be equally retarded and full of yourselves when you arrive, regardless of the course you took
I'm #1 at my school and didn't take Law Preview. I don't know what useful information you could get out of it. Case briefing won't help you in law school: case summary books and hornbooks do. If you listen to what your professor tells you to do all semester, you'll waste valuable time learning what you need to know for the exam. Sure, part of the experience is learning to "think" like a lawyer, but it's all about grades on your exam. Doing anything 0L is probably a huge waste of time. The ONLY positive thing I see from what you said is that you have started reading cases. The only reason it's a positive is because it'll take you a while to understand them. Everything else is overrated.Lawyer1234 wrote:Yes.
I am taking Law Preview.
I think it is worth taking.
I am still a 0L so my position may or may not change after I see how it really is in 1L.
What I can tell you is that I am learning a lot about the 1L subjects.
More importantly I am learning the tools and techniques for doing well in law school: case briefing, outlining, socratic method, exam taking, legal research, etc.
The professors they hire are all from top law schools, they give interesting lectures, they give us tips on how to do well (and they should know since they do law school for a living), they seem to care a lot about improving our ability to succeed, they are very nice as well.
The students who take it are all going to Top 50ish law schools, everyone is generally eager to learn as much as they can, overall good group of people.
You get a lot of free study guides from Aspen.
The textbook is a miniature casebook, we brief about ten cases the night before each class, and I recognize almost all of these cases as being pretty famous in the legal world (so it is good to read and discuss them prior to 1L)
The price is reasonable: Think of it this way, if taking this course puts me (or you) in even a slightly better position to get a higher paying job after law school, then the cost will be washed out in a week.
Conclusion: I am having a great time taking the course, you should probably take it too if you have the time, money, committed to doing well your first year of law school.
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You think, but you don't really know. You can't know. You've never taken a law school class.Lawyer1234 wrote:Yes.
I am taking Law Preview.
I think it is worth taking.
I am still a 0L so my position may or may not change after I see how it really is in 1L.
There is no way in one week you can learn anything substantive enough to give you any type of advantage by the time the exam comes around.What I can tell you is that I am learning a lot about the 1L subjects.
You can learn all of these in Getting to Maybe/LEEWS. And actually, you will probably be getting better information from those materials. I doubt that the "case briefing" methods at Law Preview are that great.More importantly I am learning the tools and techniques for doing well in law school: case briefing, outlining, socratic method, exam taking, legal research, etc.
The only Professors that matter are the ones YOU will have during 1L. You have to learn what they want the whole year and then serve it back to them on an exam.The professors they hire are all from top law schools, they give interesting lectures, they give us tips on how to do well (and they should know since they do law school for a living), they seem to care a lot about improving our ability to succeed, they are very nice as well.
Doesn't mean anything. They are 0L and know nothing about law school either.The students who take it are all going to Top 50ish law schools, everyone is generally eager to learn as much as they can, overall good group of people.
You could have saved the Law Preview tuition money and bought them.You get a lot of free study guides from Aspen.
You could have bought the case book and found which cases are the famous ones online. There are tons of resources to help you understand them and develop your legal reasoning skills online. (for free!)The textbook is a miniature casebook, we brief about ten cases the night before each class, and I recognize almost all of these cases as being pretty famous in the legal world (so it is good to read and discuss them prior to 1L)
I am going to be honest with you. This course will do little to help put you ahead of your classmates. It is not worth the money.The price is reasonable: Think of it this way, if taking this course puts me (or you) in even a slightly better position to get a higher paying job after law school, then the cost will be washed out in a week.
Conclusion: I am having a great time taking the course, you should probably take it too if you have the time, money, committed to doing well your first year of law school.
Here's the thing. Law Preview has put into your head a premise which is not accurate.Lawyer1234 wrote: I don't doubt that everything I learned in Law Preview could be learned in the first few weeks of 1L. My point is that 0Ls who want to do well and have the time and money should take Law Preview. It helps you prepare for law school. It certainly does not hurt you, and if you say it does I would be highly suspicious that you personally did not take the course. If you also say it could not possibly help you, once again I would be suspcious because after taking the course I know I am better for having been exposed to Socratic Method, Case Reading, Briefing, Writing, etc. These were real law professors from good schools, of course it is helpful to hear their advice now and plan accordingly.
So if it can only help you and the question is if it helps you by enough of a margin to justify the expense, then why are we even arguing? If you have the time and money and want to do well in your 1L, and want early exposure to law school, and want to be prepared for the real thing, then take the course! I fit into that category, so I did, and I would do it again. I also read books like Getting to Maybe and read these blogs, these are not mutually exclusive activities as the course is only 1 week long.
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This crap is a waste of money. Save for tuition. These guys are trying to make money off of your fear. There are far better investments of your money and time than some course teaching you how to make a glorified outline.BlueJeanBaby wrote:Bumping this. Hesitantly considering taking Law Preview. I have the money, but I don't have a surplus of money and would much rather put it towards 1L tuition. I saw someone recommended LEEWs over Law Preview-- any truth to that?
Don't do it LEEWS, Top 8 Secrets to Exam performance and Getting to Maybe are all you need. I'd honestly recommend LEEWS first because getting to maybe kinda assumes that you have some knowledge about law school and LEEWS goes in assuming that you know nothing.BlueJeanBaby wrote:Bumping this. Hesitantly considering taking Law Preview. I have the money, but I don't have a surplus of money and would much rather put it towards 1L tuition. I saw someone recommended LEEWs over Law Preview-- any truth to that?
Lacepiece23 wrote:Don't do it LEEWS, Top 8 Secrets to Exam performance and Getting to Maybe are all you need. I'd honestly recommend LEEWS first because getting to maybe kinda assumes that you have some knowledge about law school and LEEWS goes in assuming that you know nothing.BlueJeanBaby wrote:Bumping this. Hesitantly considering taking Law Preview. I have the money, but I don't have a surplus of money and would much rather put it towards 1L tuition. I saw someone recommended LEEWs over Law Preview-- any truth to that?
BlueJeanBaby wrote: My wallet was hoping someone would say this. Thanks
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For that find someone on law review, hope they had a decent highlighting system, buy all there books for a fraction of the price... profitScotusnerd wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote: My wallet was hoping someone would say this. Thanks
Hold on to that inner wallet voice. It will serve you well when it's time to buy textbooks.
Unfortunately, I don't know any 1Ls where I am going to schoolLacepiece23 wrote:For that find someone on law review, hope they had a decent highlighting system, buy all there books for a fraction of the price... profitScotusnerd wrote:BlueJeanBaby wrote: My wallet was hoping someone would say this. Thanks
Hold on to that inner wallet voice. It will serve you well when it's time to buy textbooks.
As someone who took Law Preview, I find alot of what other said above to be inaccurate. I do not mean to sound combative but the fact is that Law Preview (like most in life) is what you make of it.BlueJeanBaby wrote:Bumping this. Hesitantly considering taking Law Preview. I have the money, but I don't have a surplus of money and would much rather put it towards 1L tuition. I saw someone recommended LEEWs over Law Preview-- any truth to that?
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I think that the one week course IS extravagantly pricey haha! Over a grand for the course, not including travel/hotel/food. Add on a week's worth of pay and we are looking at at least $2500 (for me, I guess). I bought LEEWS online used for $60. I've heard more positive about LEEWS than law preview and it was way less of a financial burden haha.Keithustus wrote:I've been out of school since 2003 so am very tempted to take Law Preview. I'll read Getting to Maybe and The Eight Secrets of Top Exam Performance in Law School thanks to your guys' recommendations, but given how long it's been since I've been in any kind of class or taken academic notes, a one-week exposure seems worthwhile given that the course price isn't extravagantly high. I still don't know anything about LEEWS or BARBRI other than from googling them. Are they worth a more in-depth look? FYI, I've been reading SCOTUS opinions and attending their oral arguments for almost 15 years.
LEEWs is a series of CDs and a booklet that goes with the CDs. Something like 9, maybe 10 hours of total instruction. And that doesn't sound so bad, but I would also never spend money on a class to study for the LSAT haha. I'm cheap.Keithustus wrote:Considering how much Kaplan charges for a course that only helps you for a one-morning test, $1,000 for a week to maybe help you for three years is reasonable. Besides, one of the Law Preview locations is easily commutable from my home. Thanks...looks like I'll look for LEEWS used online too. It's just a big book or something, right?
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