Drop out or na?

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Drop out or na?

Postby crazywafflez » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:57 pm

Hey y'all,
Love the forum and don't usually post but was looking for some more advice. I go to a school that flutters between T1 and top of T2. After this first semester I'm a bit below median. I'm considering dropping out though. I am about 10k in debt at the moment. If I stick it out i'll be about 60-70k in debt (including interest) after graduating. I have some connections to where I want to practice but my school is not in the same state as where I want to go (but it is the same geographic region). The reason, besides bad grades, I'm considering dropping out is because the content of law, I find, is really boring... The only classes I remotely enjoyed were Torts and Crim and it wasn't like I was enthralled by them either. I had two internships this last semester. I enjoyed the one with the DA and didn't mind the one I did with a public interest group. I'm really going into law because I want to help people and felt law was a good avenue to do so. I also have dreams of becoming a judge, small state politician, or a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay). So being an attorney is not the main aim of my life and not sure how much I would actually enjoy it. So what would y'all do? Should I drop out? Stay and redouble my efforts next semester? Thanks all for reading and I appreciate the time and help.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby acr » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:30 am

You're a 1L? Why did you have internships last semester in addition to 1L classes? During 1L, your classes should really be your only focus. I would recommend dropping the internships, finishing this next semester (it's only 4 months), try your best to raise your grades, and re-evaluate at at the end of the semester. There's really no harm in finishing the first year when you have a more complete picture. And maybe try to get a summer internship in an area of law you think you might be interested in. If you hate it, and your grades haven't improved, then take the idea of dropping out more seriously.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby cavalier1138 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:16 am

I'm confused about the internship situation, too. But this part is more concerning for me:

crazywafflez wrote:I'm really going into law because I want to help people and felt law was a good avenue to do so. I also have dreams of becoming a judge, small state politician, or a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay). So being an attorney is not the main aim of my life and not sure how much I would actually enjoy it.


Law school is for people who want to be lawyers. Being a judge is just being a lawyer who gets to tell other lawyers what the law is with more authority, and you need experience as a lawyer before becoming one. State politicians don't need JDs. Undergrad professors definitely don't need JDs and do need doctorates.

So based on your description of your career goals, I would have told you to not bother with law school in the first place. I don't see any reason to keep spending time and money on a career path you aren't interested in.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby nixy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:38 am

crazywafflez wrote:Hey y'all,
a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay).

This is really not how it works; getting a JD isn’t going to get you a job as a professor at either one of these kinds of schools.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby BasilHallward » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:19 pm

crazywafflez wrote:Hey y'all,
Love the forum and don't usually post but was looking for some more advice. I go to a school that flutters between T1 and top of T2. After this first semester I'm a bit below median. I'm considering dropping out though. I am about 10k in debt at the moment. If I stick it out i'll be about 60-70k in debt (including interest) after graduating. I have some connections to where I want to practice but my school is not in the same state as where I want to go (but it is the same geographic region). The reason, besides bad grades, I'm considering dropping out is because the content of law, I find, is really boring... The only classes I remotely enjoyed were Torts and Crim and it wasn't like I was enthralled by them either. I had two internships this last semester. I enjoyed the one with the DA and didn't mind the one I did with a public interest group. I'm really going into law because I want to help people and felt law was a good avenue to do so. I also have dreams of becoming a judge, small state politician, or a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay). So being an attorney is not the main aim of my life and not sure how much I would actually enjoy it. So what would y'all do? Should I drop out? Stay and redouble my efforts next semester? Thanks all for reading and I appreciate the time and help.


How is this possible? The ABA mandates that 1Ls not work their first semester of law school. Maybe you fell through the cracks and drove an Uber during 1L, but I don't see how a DA's office can do this. Are you sure that you're in law school and only a 1L??

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby UBETutoring » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:34 pm

BasilHallward wrote:
crazywafflez wrote:Hey y'all,
Love the forum and don't usually post but was looking for some more advice. I go to a school that flutters between T1 and top of T2. After this first semester I'm a bit below median. I'm considering dropping out though. I am about 10k in debt at the moment. If I stick it out i'll be about 60-70k in debt (including interest) after graduating. I have some connections to where I want to practice but my school is not in the same state as where I want to go (but it is the same geographic region). The reason, besides bad grades, I'm considering dropping out is because the content of law, I find, is really boring... The only classes I remotely enjoyed were Torts and Crim and it wasn't like I was enthralled by them either. I had two internships this last semester. I enjoyed the one with the DA and didn't mind the one I did with a public interest group. I'm really going into law because I want to help people and felt law was a good avenue to do so. I also have dreams of becoming a judge, small state politician, or a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay). So being an attorney is not the main aim of my life and not sure how much I would actually enjoy it. So what would y'all do? Should I drop out? Stay and redouble my efforts next semester? Thanks all for reading and I appreciate the time and help.


How is this possible? The ABA mandates that 1Ls not work their first semester of law school. Maybe you fell through the cracks and drove an Uber during 1L, but I don't see how a DA's office can do this. Are you sure that you're in law school and only a 1L??

This isn't really enforced in practice. The whole point is that law school is supposed to be too strenuous to work during. If you do well, nobody is out to get you because you work a bit to earn more money. C&F in my state didn't even check or follow up on my resume.

In OP's situation, I'd drop out. Law school and practice are different, but in most situations law school is at least equally interesting.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby crazywafflez » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:43 pm

Thanks everyone for the responses. I am indeed a 1L. My school actually allowed me to, it was just a drop down menu thing on our website that I could just add... I'm not sure if I'm allowed but maybe they just don't check it but I even talked to one of my professors about it and she was pretty encouraging. I'd really only be interested in crim law and using it to teach crim law clinic or teach poli sci at the liberal arts school (I have an MA and they have a couple JDs that are adjuncts there and one tenured one for that department). Or becoming like an ADA and using that to go further as a judge or into politics. Sorry this is pretty random and thanks again for all the help. I'm leaning towards dropping out but waiting for one more grade to come out.

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Re: Drop out or na?

Postby BasilHallward » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:44 pm

UBETutoring wrote:
BasilHallward wrote:
crazywafflez wrote:Hey y'all,
Love the forum and don't usually post but was looking for some more advice. I go to a school that flutters between T1 and top of T2. After this first semester I'm a bit below median. I'm considering dropping out though. I am about 10k in debt at the moment. If I stick it out i'll be about 60-70k in debt (including interest) after graduating. I have some connections to where I want to practice but my school is not in the same state as where I want to go (but it is the same geographic region). The reason, besides bad grades, I'm considering dropping out is because the content of law, I find, is really boring... The only classes I remotely enjoyed were Torts and Crim and it wasn't like I was enthralled by them either. I had two internships this last semester. I enjoyed the one with the DA and didn't mind the one I did with a public interest group. I'm really going into law because I want to help people and felt law was a good avenue to do so. I also have dreams of becoming a judge, small state politician, or a professor at a low caliber liberal arts or state school in my neck of the woods in the south (where I want to stay). So being an attorney is not the main aim of my life and not sure how much I would actually enjoy it. So what would y'all do? Should I drop out? Stay and redouble my efforts next semester? Thanks all for reading and I appreciate the time and help.


How is this possible? The ABA mandates that 1Ls not work their first semester of law school. Maybe you fell through the cracks and drove an Uber during 1L, but I don't see how a DA's office can do this. Are you sure that you're in law school and only a 1L??

This isn't really enforced in practice. The whole point is that law school is supposed to be too strenuous to work during. If you do well, nobody is out to get you because you work a bit to earn more money. C&F in my state didn't even check or follow up on my resume.

In OP's situation, I'd drop out. Law school and practice are different, but in most situations law school is at least equally interesting.


Sure. C&F is one thing. But one is not earning $$ as a 1L at the DA's office. I just find it extremely odd that a DA would want a 1st semester 1L as an intern who barely knows how to login into WestLaw.



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