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Elitism within law school

Post by esther0123 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:55 pm

I'm finding that at my school, the elitism among law students runs a bit rampant. I sense a certain disrespect from those on law review to those who are not, those in "elite law firms (higher up on vault)" seem to kind of look down on those in lower ranked firms etc. It's a bit exhausting, and I'm wondering if all of this kind of dissipates as you move further into your career. Any thoughts?

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by rcharter1978 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:35 am

esther0123 wrote:I'm finding that at my school, the elitism among law students runs a bit rampant. I sense a certain disrespect from those on law review to those who are not, those in "elite law firms (higher up on vault)" seem to kind of look down on those in lower ranked firms etc. It's a bit exhausting, and I'm wondering if all of this kind of dissipates as you move further into your career. Any thoughts?
A lot of people in law school are there so they can look down on others in general.

Just worry about what you're doing and being happy with yourself.

This is generally good life advice as well.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by dabigchina » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:33 am

esther0123 wrote:I sense a certain disrespect from those on law review to those who are not, those in "elite law firms (higher up on vault)
these people are morons.

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Post by sweets91 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:47 am

rcharter1978 wrote:
esther0123 wrote:I'm finding that at my school, the elitism among law students runs a bit rampant. I sense a certain disrespect from those on law review to those who are not, those in "elite law firms (higher up on vault)" seem to kind of look down on those in lower ranked firms etc. It's a bit exhausting, and I'm wondering if all of this kind of dissipates as you move further into your career. Any thoughts?
A lot of people in law school are there so they can look down on others in general.

Just worry about what you're doing and being happy with yourself.

This is generally good life advice as well.
tcr. move on

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by jchiles » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:39 pm

A lot of it is probably in your head, don't worry about it.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by brorepresentation1 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:45 pm

How are you perceiving elitist behavior? How can you expect to make an argument without providing facts?

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by Wild Card » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:04 pm

Where do you go to school? Columbia? Penn?

At NYU, certain socially diseased students list their journal membership and position in their email signatures, and talk loudly about editorial duties in public areas, but otherwise...

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Post by Blackfish » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:13 pm

at least no one is bragging about copping dat biglaw job

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by esther0123 » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:37 pm

I'm at HYS... talking incessantly about journal duties to the exclusion of anything else is definitely one example of such behavior. Excluding people whose vault ranking is "lower" from conversation is another example. But yes you're also right, it's possible that it's all in my head. Gosh I hope so.

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Post by AnMzungu » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:28 am

Getting to laugh at the fart-sniffers is one of the best things about HYS. Don't waste the opportunity.

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Post by hdunlop » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:47 am

Yeah it's 100% not in your head.

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Post by dabigchina » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:19 am

guessing this is H?

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by esther0123 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 10:58 am

dabigchina wrote:guessing this is H?
What makes you say that :oops:

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Post by bacillusanthracis » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:32 am

I just found out a friend of mine got kicked off law review.

I have so much more respect for him now.

Are there people who continue to be elitist assholes after law school? Yep.

Are there elitist plumber assholes? Yep.

C'est la motherfuckin' vie.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by dabigchina » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:34 am

esther0123 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:guessing this is H?
What makes you say that :oops:
just a wild guess...

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by sweets91 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:14 am

esther0123 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:guessing this is H?
What makes you say that :oops:
so this thread was basically you wanting to humble-brag about attending H?

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by esther0123 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:32 am

sweets91 wrote:
esther0123 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:guessing this is H?
What makes you say that :oops:
so this thread was basically you wanting to humble-brag about attending H?
I didn't even mention my school until someone asked... so I must've been a very advanced humble bragger if I was one (which was not my intent). Also, this forum isn't exactly a place to humble brag that you go to H(or YS) since so many board members do attend T14.
I don't think this kind of a pointed question is necessarily warranted since I just wanted some sympathetic voice.

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Post by Minnietron » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:13 pm

esther0123 wrote:
sweets91 wrote:
esther0123 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:guessing this is H?
What makes you say that :oops:
so this thread was basically you wanting to humble-brag about attending H?
I didn't even mention my school until someone asked... so I must've been a very advanced humble bragger if I was one (which was not my intent). Also, this forum isn't exactly a place to humble brag that you go to H(or YS) since so many board members do attend T14.
I don't think this kind of a pointed question is necessarily warranted since I just wanted some sympathetic voice.
Is this Corey Feldman? Putting something into the public sphere and only expecting the type of response you wanted? :lol:
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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by dabigchina » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:43 pm

I don't think OP was humblebragging. The behavior she (?) describes is consistent with how my friends have described many of their fellow students at that particular school.

Not to say everyone will be like this, of course.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by esther0123 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:28 pm

dabigchina wrote:I don't think OP was humblebragging. The behavior she (?) describes is consistent with how my friends have described many of their fellow students at that particular school.

Not to say everyone will be like this, of course.
Sad to hear that it wasn't just my observation. Sigh.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by sweets91 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:21 pm

dabigchina wrote:I don't think OP was humblebragging. The behavior she (?) describes is consistent with how my friends have described many of their fellow students at that particular school.

Not to say everyone will be like this, of course.
Whether or not what she perceives is true doesn't affect her motive in posting this thread.

Of course there's going to be elitism at top law schools. What did OP really expect to hear? No, no, it's all in your head?

ETA: This thread should have ended after the first post. Just worry about what you're doing and being happy with yourself

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by rcharter1978 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:08 pm

sweets91 wrote:
dabigchina wrote:I don't think OP was humblebragging. The behavior she (?) describes is consistent with how my friends have described many of their fellow students at that particular school.

Not to say everyone will be like this, of course.
Whether or not what she perceives is true doesn't affect her motive in posting this thread.

Of course there's going to be elitism at top law schools. What did OP really expect to hear? No, no, it's all in your head?

ETA: This thread should have ended after the first post. Just worry about what you're doing and being happy with yourself
Yeah, as someone pointed out, elitism exists in every facet of life. I think OP is lucky that she (?) has never encountered it until now.

If you worry about everyone who thinks they are better than you, life is going to be tough.

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Re: Elitism within law school

Post by BottomOfTotem » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:08 am

I think a couple of posters hit it right on the head, don't trip on the lil shit.

But as for a practical answer, it has helped me to focus on the aspect of me that isn't related to law school. I know this may seem hard for some, but it is crucially important to understand that law school, and a career for that matter, is really a rather insignificant portion of your life. It is a means to pay bills. Find a passion. Create a family. Pick up disc golf (?). Do something that brings you pride in a healthy forum that doesn't breed an "eat what you kill" competitive atmosphere.

For example, I have 2 kids and a wonderful wife. I still get stressed on the correct application of BLL, and all that type of shit, but at the end of the day, I have to detach and teach a human how to be a human (and I also have to deal with my kids...ha).

Good luck to you. Step back and realize you have a lot of things going for you, and people like that exist, but they don't matter.

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