Patrick Bateman wrote:
what is great about jag is that even senior enlisted get to do smaller cases and where in the civilian world do paralegals get to be counsel and legally advise?
plenty of law grads do public interest law and make low salaries similar to lt. jg's in the military, or GS-7s in the defense department
While I cannot speak to the Navy specifically, only certified Judge Advocates in the Air Force are able to serve as trial counsel (or any counsel) for that matter. The NCOs of any legal office are tremendously valuable but it would be the same Unauthorized Practice of Law for them as it would be on the civilian side if they provided legal advice or representation, plus probably some UCMJ violation.
Also, the 0-2/0-3 grade parallels GS-9/GS-10, not GS-7. Even the summer law clerks in the AF sit at GS-9.
my friend is us army jag, but only relegated to small cases, prosecution or defense, in iraq as are all E-5s and higher in jag...on the tv show, one of the jag paralegals, petty officer 1st class "whoever" (but an e-6), did some small cases as co-counsel but that it tv
bigger cases go to army officers, and jag officers in iraq are extremely hard to come by
i was in dod after college, as well as another government agency (as a college intern)
here is the breakdown
gs-5 = 2nd lt. or navy ensign
gs-7 = 1st lt. or navy lt. jr. grade
gs-9 = captain or full navy lt.
gs-11 = major or navy lt. commander
gs-13 = lt. colonel or navy commander
gs-15 = colonel or full navy captain
this was the structure when i was an hr person at dod (dmdc-west) in 1995
it may be different now, and you may be right
i will try to find a link, as one person told me that a lt jr. grade (0-2) is now a gs-12 equivalent in "pay" due to extra combat pay and separation pay...and that may be true since we didn't have this huge war when i was at dod in the mid-90s
here's the update and link, and there seems to be some significant increases on the military side which is goodhttp://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/IB10089.pdf
and here's a link on military pay vs. civilian pay as congress voted on it: