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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:35 pm

clshopeful wrote:Posted my 1L GPA before I had it, yes (I was.04 off on my prediction), because I wanted to know if I had a shot at CLS/get some feedback without being 0L locked.

Don't do this shit. It's not like there aren't a million "what are my chances at X???" in the transfer forum that you can read until your grades come back.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby rpupkin » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:14 pm

cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby clshopeful » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:48 pm

rpupkin wrote:
cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.


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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby jrc223 » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:31 am

is it ok to hate the op

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby merlin- » Sat Jan 16, 2016 6:00 am

clshopeful wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.


lol so not true. Try being median pwned and transfering to NYU/CLS. Won't be able to; I probably will be able to.


Well to be honest, there is a good chance you will be denied to those too. So it's a very good idea to apply to more than just those two schools(most top schools is what you should do!).

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby juzam_djinn » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:23 pm

rpupkin wrote:
cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.


definitely exaggerated, but if the # were closer to 30 or 40, I'd be inclined to agree

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby barkschool » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:53 pm

jrc223 wrote:is it ok to hate the op


depends on his official transcript

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby Attrition » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:00 am

barkschool wrote:
jrc223 wrote:is it ok to hate the op


depends on his official transcript


it definitely doesn't

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:03 am

juzam_djinn wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.


definitely exaggerated, but if the # were closer to 30 or 40, I'd be inclined to agree

I'd still strongly disagree. Why would you be inclined to agree?

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby JonTheMandamus » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:23 am

Accidentally bought unsalted popcorn. Like a good neighbor TLS is there.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby juzam_djinn » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:48 am

rpupkin wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
cheaptilts wrote:There are at least 80 law schools in the United States where being median pwned is just as good or better than being top 2.5% at Seattle U.

That's not even close to being true.


definitely exaggerated, but if the # were closer to 30 or 40, I'd be inclined to agree

I'd still strongly disagree. Why would you be inclined to agree?


I mean, employment prospects at SU are pretty atrocious...

at least at a top 30 school, biglaw firms come to OCI. Not sure if biglaw (esp. not non-Seattle biglaw) would come out to SU OCI. Not saying that biglaw is the end all be all, but in terms of opportunities it's a pretty important one to have.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby cron1834 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:39 am

jrc223 wrote:is it ok to hate the op

I am actively rooting against OP.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby PeanutsNJam » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:47 am

Who here would hire OP even if he were at CLS

I genuinely hope you can hide your real personality in callbacks OP

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:51 pm

juzam_djinn wrote:
I mean, employment prospects at SU are pretty atrocious...

at least at a top 30 school, biglaw firms come to OCI. Not sure if biglaw (esp. not non-Seattle biglaw) would come out to SU OCI. Not saying that biglaw is the end all be all, but in terms of opportunities it's a pretty important one to have.

I agree that, overall, employment numbers at TTT schools are worse than overall employment numbers at T30-T40 schools. (Though there's isn't that much daylight between some of the T40s and some of TTTs.) And if we were talking about a median student at a T30 versus a median student at a Seattle U, I would of course agree that the latter is worse off. But that's not what we're talking about.

We're talking about someone who is one of the top five students in his or her class. In general, TLS underestimates the value of being one of the top few students in your class at a lower-ranked school. If you're ranked that high, you don't need OCI to get be competitive for firm jobs in your region. No, you're not guaranteed a firm job, but neither is a student who is median at WUTSL, Minnesota, or Arizona.

I agree with the TLS conventional wisdom that one shouldn't go to a lower-ranked school if the goal is to land a decent-paying firm job. But if you actually end up as one of the top students in your class (as the OP has), you're going to be in good shape. I'd rather be top 2.5% at at Seattle U than median at just about any school outside the T14. And if my goal was to work in Seattle, I'd rather be top 2.5% at Seattle U than median at many of the T14s.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby Minnietron » Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:51 pm

criminaltheory wrote:
clshopeful wrote:Lol.. Ok, what about this: I literally take my iphone, film myself, my driver's license for proof of indentification, then (all in the same clip), log into my Seattle U account, go to transcript, and show you. Literally no way I could fake that. Ill film me typing it into the browser, me logging in, and clicking on everything.


I want to watch this.

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Please add your SS card to the video. You know, for proof of identity.
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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby juzam_djinn » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:26 pm

rpupkin wrote:
juzam_djinn wrote:
I mean, employment prospects at SU are pretty atrocious...

at least at a top 30 school, biglaw firms come to OCI. Not sure if biglaw (esp. not non-Seattle biglaw) would come out to SU OCI. Not saying that biglaw is the end all be all, but in terms of opportunities it's a pretty important one to have.

I agree that, overall, employment numbers at TTT schools are worse than overall employment numbers at T30-T40 schools. (Though there's isn't that much daylight between some of the T40s and some of TTTs.) And if we were talking about a median student at a T30 versus a median student at a Seattle U, I would of course agree that the latter is worse off. But that's not what we're talking about.

We're talking about someone who is one of the top five students in his or her class. In general, TLS underestimates the value of being one of the top few students in your class at a lower-ranked school. If you're ranked that high, you don't need OCI to get be competitive for firm jobs in your region. No, you're not guaranteed a firm job, but neither is a student who is median at WUTSL, Minnesota, or Arizona.

I agree with the TLS conventional wisdom that one shouldn't go to a lower-ranked school if the goal is to land a decent-paying firm job. But if you actually end up as one of the top students in your class (as the OP has), you're going to be in good shape. I'd rather be top 2.5% at at Seattle U than median at just about any school outside the T14. And if my goal was to work in Seattle, I'd rather be top 2.5% at Seattle U than median at many of the T14s.


Ya I mean, it goes w/o saying that if you want to be in the Pacific Northwest, you'd rather be the top student at Seattle over median at just about any school. And I think I'm inclined to agree w/ you overall. I should have said median at a top 15-20, which would be more reasonable since being median at some of the top regional schools (UT, UCLA, USC) arguably gives you a better shot at firm jobs than top at SU. But ya, saying top 30-40 was a stretch.

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Re: Weird I'm a 1L and Not Studying?

Postby m27 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:37 pm

This thread is gold



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