Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby rockosmodernlife » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:08 am

TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


My friends that have all gone have said there might be homework but class is just held M-F

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:33 am

TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


No, weekends you are allowed to, but not required.

Militarybound wrote:Anyone know when we find out our duty station assignments? My recruiter told me we would find out towards the end of NJS, but older thread comments make it sound like we know much earlier.


Aug ODS found out duty stations for after NJS (Jan 2018) in week 2, alongside of our NJS orders.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:28 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


Not generally, but your liberty is at one degree of restriction or another, depending on how far you are into it. You do have to stand watches during the weekend, though.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:40 pm

Stubbazubba wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


Not generally, but your liberty is at one degree of restriction or another, depending on how far you are into it. You do have to stand watches during the weekend, though.


Good times. You going in October?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:38 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
Stubbazubba wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


Not generally, but your liberty is at one degree of restriction or another, depending on how far you are into it. You do have to stand watches during the weekend, though.


Good times. You going in October?


I'm actually here now.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:58 pm

Stubbazubba wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
Stubbazubba wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:Do you train on the weekends at ODS?


Not generally, but your liberty is at one degree of restriction or another, depending on how far you are into it. You do have to stand watches during the weekend, though.


Good times. You going in October?


I'm actually here now.


Ah, gotcha. Early bar results state, I'm guessing? How's it going?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby thelincolnlawyer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:59 pm

Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby deadthrone7 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:03 pm

thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:08 pm

deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:03 am

Got ODS orders. Anyone else in October?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby lunchbox » Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:02 pm

Lucky. Still waiting on my scroll to be signed.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby mjade » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:14 am

usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.


First time to apply - had my interview yesterday.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:35 am

usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.


Third time worked for me, so there's always hope! If you can, get in touch with someone at Code 61 and ask for help strengthening your specific application. Just showing the interest will help.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:48 pm

Stubbazubba wrote:
usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.


Third time worked for me, so there's always hope! If you can, get in touch with someone at Code 61 and ask for help strengthening your specific application. Just showing the interest will help.


I did. Was given a shrug and told to extern or something. Hope it counts for something haha.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:42 pm

usn26 wrote:
Stubbazubba wrote:
usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.


Third time worked for me, so there's always hope! If you can, get in touch with someone at Code 61 and ask for help strengthening your specific application. Just showing the interest will help.


I did. Was given a shrug and told to extern or something. Hope it counts for something haha.


USN knows the JAG game as well as anyone here, but for those reading who may not: interning/externing is REALLY helpful. The evaluation that's done on you (that you never see) is given a lot of weight at the selection board.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:40 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
usn26 wrote:
Stubbazubba wrote:
usn26 wrote:
deadthrone7 wrote:
thelincolnlawyer wrote:Anybody else applying this cycle? The deadline is the 29th.


3rd times the charm, right?


Here's hoping.


Third time worked for me, so there's always hope! If you can, get in touch with someone at Code 61 and ask for help strengthening your specific application. Just showing the interest will help.


I did. Was given a shrug and told to extern or something. Hope it counts for something haha.


USN knows the JAG game as well as anyone here, but for those reading who may not: interning/externing is REALLY helpful. The evaluation that's done on you (that you never see) is given a lot of weight at the selection board.


If you cannot do an internship, explain why in a comment if you have a decent reason. If you haven't done an internship, schedule a base visit. Take a day or two off of school, go up and spend the day with some JAGs. That's what I did (both of the above), and got picked up on my third application.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:46 am

Stubbazubba wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:USN knows the JAG game as well as anyone here, but for those reading who may not: interning/externing is REALLY helpful. The evaluation that's done on you (that you never see) is given a lot of weight at the selection board.


If you cannot do an internship, explain why in a comment if you have a decent reason. If you haven't done an internship, schedule a base visit. Take a day or two off of school, go up and spend the day with some JAGs. That's what I did (both of the above), and got picked up on my third application.


Oh yeah, for aspring applicants the internship/externship is a huge boost if you can do it. Stubbazubba's got a good approach in the alternative, although it doesn't quite apply to my situation unfortunately.

I wasn't in a position to do a real externship but I actually seriously considered doing a roundabout, unofficial one. I decided the marginal value was way too small to justify the effort and thank God b/c I am getting crushed under the weight of some poor 3L life choices right about now lol.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby deadthrone7 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:31 am

In retrospect, I wish I would have done the internship 1L summer. I was in a prosecutors office 2L summer to use and abuse my 3rd year practice certificate, which I definitely don't regret.

Hoping my prior Navy service can carry a bit of weight. If I don't pick it up this go about, I will definitely try to get into an office for a day or two.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby hkh2220 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:04 pm

kind of a shot in the dark here- can anyone speak to the promotions aspect of choosing JAG? Presumably, if you want to make the Navy JAGC your career and with the few numbers they accept -what kind of impact does that have on promotion particularly above O-4?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:09 pm

hkh2220 wrote:kind of a shot in the dark here- can anyone speak to the promotions aspect of choosing JAG? Presumably, if you want to make the Navy JAGC your career and with the few numbers they accept -what kind of impact does that have on promotion particularly above O-4?


I'm sure the promotion rates are online somewhere. Remember that a lot of people get out as O3s. So, yeah, there are relatively few O4 and above billets, but it's a small community that gets smaller as you advance.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Fed_Atty » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:31 pm

http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/boards/activedutyofficer/Pages/default.aspx

You can get all the info from the boards page. JAGs are considered Staff Corps. This year's results

Active Component

O4 - Above Zone (means they were passed over for promotion the year before) 4/10 selected
O4 - In Zone (First time eligible for promotion) 45/58 Selected Overall promotion rate %84.48

O5 - Above Zone - 5/42 selected
O5 - In Zone 29/45 selected Overall promotion rate %75.56

O6- Above Zone 4/27 selected
O6 - In Zone 13/25 selected Overall promotion rate %68

Reserve Component

O4 - Above Zone 0/1 selected (this was the lone person not selected by last year's board either)
O4 - In Zone 38/38 selected (Good time to be up for promotion - just fog that mirror!)

O5 - Above Zone 8/54
O5 - In Zone 12/26

O6 - Above Zone 4/65
O6 - In Zone 9/19

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby thelincolnlawyer » Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:07 pm

Interviewed today, first-time applicant. Externing this semester so my package will probably be stronger next semester with the evaluation form if I am not accepted on this round.




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