Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:08 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
jbrennanmac wrote:I know vision requirements seem unrelated to this thread, but I have had trouble finding any info on vision waivers for staff officers vs pilots, SEALS, etc. If anyone has any experience with medical waivers for vision, I'd love to hear it--I'd hate to invest time and hope in pursuing a JAG career only to be thwarted at the end for my eyesight. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have!


I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the only differences in medical requirements as far as vision goes are between pilots and non-pilots. I don't believe JAGs have more leeway than, say, submariners. If you do some Googling, you should be able to find the Navy commissioning medical requirements.

I suspect what you're describing would be waivable, but you're smart to do some research before you invest a lot of time and energy in pursuing a JAG spot.


I have poor vision as well. Aside from reviewing the commissioning requirements, the only way to know for sure if you'll make it through is to try. I had to go to a civilian eye specialist after MEPS for a more in depth eye exam. It seems the ultimate reviewer certainly took into consideration that I'd be sitting at a desk for the majority of my career. I believe there is a common sense factor that will be taken into consideration.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby jbrennanmac » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:49 pm

S. Goodman wrote:
TheSpanishMain wrote:
jbrennanmac wrote:I know vision requirements seem unrelated to this thread, but I have had trouble finding any info on vision waivers for staff officers vs pilots, SEALS, etc. If anyone has any experience with medical waivers for vision, I'd love to hear it--I'd hate to invest time and hope in pursuing a JAG career only to be thwarted at the end for my eyesight. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have!


I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the only differences in medical requirements as far as vision goes are between pilots and non-pilots. I don't believe JAGs have more leeway than, say, submariners. If you do some Googling, you should be able to find the Navy commissioning medical requirements.

I suspect what you're describing would be waivable, but you're smart to do some research before you invest a lot of time and energy in pursuing a JAG spot.


I have poor vision as well. Aside from reviewing the commissioning requirements, the only way to know for sure if you'll make it through is to try. I had to go to a civilian eye specialist after MEPS for a more in depth eye exam. It seems the ultimate reviewer certainly took into consideration that I'd be sitting at a desk for the majority of my career. I believe there is a common sense factor that will be taken into consideration.


Wow, thanks to both of you for such quick responses! This is great to hear--obviously there are many, many steps to go but good to know it's still a possible option!I'm sure I'll be looking back to this forum in the future as more questions arise.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby baileymjd » Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:30 pm

Has anyone from the Spring 2017 selection board been commissioned yet? Or where are you guys in the process?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Husky09 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:30 pm

Student loan repayment - unsolicited advice

SCRA - Servicemembers Civil Relief Act; you can take advantage of this benefit, you just have to send a copy of your orders to the institutions that hold your debt (bank/private loan, credit card company, FedLoan Servicing). One of the benefits is that SCRA caps your interest rate at 6% while you're active duty: https://scra.dmdc.osd.mil

FedLoan Servicing currently has a serious backlog of Income Driven Repayment (IDR) requests - and you need to be in an IDR loan repayment plan in order to take advantage of Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF). Backlog like - they usually process requests in 30 days, and right now they still haven't processed requests received 80+ days ago. A supervisor said IDR exploded in popularity this spring plus their online application crashed recently and they haven't yet caught up - they're really nice if you call, but you need to be persistent (and keep track of who you talk to/customer agent # and when - it helps when you have to call for the 11th time and repeat everything that has already happened but you can recite dates/names/numbers).

Send in your application ASAP for IDR if you're planning to.. and then you can also call the FedLoan Servicing Military Line (you'll get directed there immediately once they tag you as military) and ask them to expedite your application.

Good luck!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Voynich » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:14 am

baileymjd wrote:Has anyone from the Spring 2017 selection board been commissioned yet? Or where are you guys in the process?


I am a Fall 2016 selection and just got commissioned three weeks ago. 4 to 7 months from selection to commissioning is not an uncommon timeline, unfortunately. I leave for ODS this Saturday though!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Voynich » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:17 am

For those who have been to ODS, what day do you recommend reporting? The ODS website say lodging is available after 1600 on Friday (which seems way too early), so should I show up on Saturday afternoon and have some time to unpack and relax or on Sunday morning right before everything starts?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:44 am

Voynich wrote:For those who have been to ODS, what day do you recommend reporting? The ODS website say lodging is available after 1600 on Friday (which seems way too early), so should I show up on Saturday afternoon and have some time to unpack and relax or on Sunday morning right before everything starts?


I haven't been yet (going in October) but I'm told that late Saturday/early Sunday is the way to go. You really don't need much time to hang your stuff up and familiarize yourself. Once you've done that, you're just going to be sitting in a depressing barracks room staring at the wall if you show up too early.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Voynich » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:26 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
Voynich wrote:For those who have been to ODS, what day do you recommend reporting? The ODS website say lodging is available after 1600 on Friday (which seems way too early), so should I show up on Saturday afternoon and have some time to unpack and relax or on Sunday morning right before everything starts?


I haven't been yet (going in October) but I'm told that late Saturday/early Sunday is the way to go. You really don't need much time to hang your stuff up and familiarize yourself. Once you've done that, you're just going to be sitting in a depressing barracks room staring at the wall if you show up too early.


That is pretty much what I figured; I spent a lot of time staring at depressing barracks room walls when I was enlisted. It is always weird to show up early and have nothing to do.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:19 pm

Has anyone heard whether they still require us to buy NWU Type I's in ODS, or are they switching to Type III's? I know they're switching to Type III's in 2018, so it doesn't make sense to have us buy a Type I in ODS just to never wear it by the time we start, but, y'know, military. Has anyone heard? What did they require of the folks in last ODS?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:24 pm

baileymjd wrote:Has anyone from the Spring 2017 selection board been commissioned yet? Or where are you guys in the process?


I was selected in December for the Fall board and commissioned in May. Just another data point.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:54 am

Dental Visit
- Can anyone who went to ODS, is going to ODS tell me if I need to get a checkup with my dentist, or if I can just go grab my most recent dental records?

Much obliged.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby rockosmodernlife » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:57 am

baileymjd wrote:Has anyone from the Spring 2017 selection board been commissioned yet? Or where are you guys in the process?


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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:12 am

Stubbazubba wrote:
baileymjd wrote:Has anyone from the Spring 2017 selection board been commissioned yet? Or where are you guys in the process?


I was selected in December for the Fall board and commissioned in May. Just another data point.


Wondering this myself. Anyone get orders for October ODS yet?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Stubbazubba » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:52 pm

Those who have gone to ODS, can you use a debit/credit card to buy food or do they only take cash?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:21 pm

Any ods orders yet?

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Postby lunchbox » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:56 pm

My recruiter said I am waiting for my commissioning to be approved on the congressional scroll before I can sign commissioning paperwork and receive an ODS date. Does anyone else have to wait for this? Any idea how long it will take? I would love to go to ODS in October but now I'm worried it wont be ready in time.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:10 pm

Stubbazubba wrote:Those who have gone to ODS, can you use a debit/credit card to buy food or do they only take cash?



Cash. Everyone turns it into one student and the student pays the galley on behalf of the company.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:30 am

lunchbox wrote:My recruiter said I am waiting for my commissioning to be approved on the congressional scroll before I can sign commissioning paperwork and receive an ODS date. Does anyone else have to wait for this? Any idea how long it will take? I would love to go to ODS in October but now I'm worried it wont be ready in time.


I think mine took maybe two weeks. Not that long.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:23 pm

Stubbazubba wrote:Has anyone heard whether they still require us to buy NWU Type I's in ODS, or are they switching to Type III's? I know they're switching to Type III's in 2018, so it doesn't make sense to have us buy a Type I in ODS just to never wear it by the time we start, but, y'know, military. Has anyone heard? What did they require of the folks in last ODS?


So the uniform shop at OTC Newport is one of three that carries the type 3. The fleet has been slow to roll it out, so everyone in this class has had to call their duty station and ask what they are wearing (but are also getting type 3s anyways because that is what will be worn as of next year). The only sucky thing is if your base wants you in Type 1 knowing that you'll have to get both.

We don't wear the working uniform at ODS anymore. (Current student)

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby rockosmodernlife » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:02 am

jbrennanmac wrote:Hi there,

First time poster here--thanks to all who have maintained this thread. Reading through it has given me more information than I've been able to find anywhere else about the JAG selection process. I am starting law school this fall and have had an interest in a Navy JAG career for quite a while. It certainly isn't my only reason for attending law school, but it is a path I would very interested in pursuing. My question is regarding medical waivers--I was born with strabismus (basically, born cross-eyed), and I had 4 corrective surgeries for it as a child. The last one was prior to my freshman year of high school, so well over a decade ago. I wear moderate-strength contacts/ glasses and have mild astigmatism (I currently don't wear astigmatism-correcting lenses because I find them a bit uncomfortable and don't particularly need 20/20 vision in my civilian life, but I certainly could). My vision is fine, depth perception isn't great, but obviously this doesn't pose any issues towards being a good attorney. However, I don't know if this will disqualify me from military service.

I know vision requirements seem unrelated to this thread, but I have had trouble finding any info on vision waivers for staff officers vs pilots, SEALS, etc. If anyone has any experience with medical waivers for vision, I'd love to hear it--I'd hate to invest time and hope in pursuing a JAG career only to be thwarted at the end for my eyesight. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have!



I wouldn't stress too much about vision if you're not going to be a pilot. This instruction lists the basic medial requirements...hope it helps.

http://www.jag.navy.mil/careers_/career ... edical.pdf

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:23 am

Saul or any other prior service types who have gone to ODS:

How easy or not was it to get your pay straightened out so you were being paid with your prior years of service?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Fed_Atty » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:12 pm

All the prior service people in my NJS class had lots of trouble. Because of the weird way JAG does things and that you go into a non-pay status between ODS and NJS - even if your pay is right at ODS it is typically screwed up at Justice School. I did not get mine sorted out until I got to my first command. It was pretty quick then, it all depends on how good your PSD is. You will eventually get all the back pay, but it was very frustrating during NJS.

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Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:08 pm

Fed_Atty wrote:All the prior service people in my NJS class had lots of trouble. Because of the weird way JAG does things and that you go into a non-pay status between ODS and NJS - even if your pay is right at ODS it is typically screwed up at Justice School. I did not get mine sorted out until I got to my first command. It was pretty quick then, it all depends on how good your PSD is. You will eventually get all the back pay, but it was very frustrating during NJS.


Ugh, great.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:56 pm

Do you train on the weekends at ODS?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Militarybound » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:56 am

Anyone know when we find out our duty station assignments? My recruiter told me we would find out towards the end of NJS, but older thread comments make it sound like we know much earlier.




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