Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby wg6524 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:34 pm

wg6524 wrote:
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Stubbazubba wrote:So I don't remember the fellow on the phone mentioning about what to expect/do next. Is there an e-mail packet coming, a snail mail packet, or am I supposed to be reaching out for something more?


My understanding is that there's an official notification email that will go out soon. We'll have to accept or reject within a certain time period (15-20 days) then they'll assign us a recruiter for the commissioning part. That's when all the fun paperwork begins.

Here's my concern on NJS. When does medical start for my family? Honestly, I'm pretty comfortable on TRICARE right now with the reserves. My understanding is that when we commission, it's to the IRR, then to the AD list for ODS, then to the IRR again until bar results, then back to the AD list for NJS and beyond. From my understanding, once I get separation orders from the USAR, TRICARE stops and I might be able to get COBRA (or whatever they're calling it now). The time at ODS wouldn't be enough to start the TRICARE benefit and you can't get TRICARE Reserve in the IRR.

So here's my thought: Can I wait to go to ODS until after I can line up ODS and NJS back to back? Minimize the downtime and hassle with keeping my kiddos' doctor's intact.



Whenever you enter or exit AD you have a six month Tricare window on both ends. If you are currently on Tricare right now that will cover you up until you commission. But you should always contact Tricare to confirm your coverage eligibility because they can always make some exceptions if they are feeling generous.


The problem is that to go to law school, I went SELRES. I had that TAMP-180 when I left AD. I've never heard of the six months before active duty TIRCARE eligibility though, I'm going to call and find out more. Thanks for the idea!


I'm in the same situation--so if you find something out, let me know! So far, everyone just shrugs. I'm reticent to call Tricare on the chance that I'd actually just be tipping them off.


The conversation with TRICARE boiled down to "We have TAMP-180 on the back end of AD time; but nothing for the front end. You'd have to use the CHCBP to cover you."

I keep getting shrugs from recruiting also. It's like they don't get "dinged" on their mission requirement if they have attrition due to non-procedure type stuff. When I've worked around USAREC (Army Recruiting) in years past, losing someone due to something you could have helped figure out (like healthcare) was an easy way to end up in in the 1SG's office.

I called TRICARE and laid it out for them. They said they've seen people in my situation before and can help with the CHAMPS benefit which is 3,087 for a family paid per quarter, in advance and generally not refundable if you use only a partial quarter. I'll keep you advised as to what they say when I call tomorrow


Sorry. Try that one again. The conversation with TRICARE boiled down to "We have TAMP-180 on the back end of AD time; but nothing for the front end. You'd have to use the CHCBP to cover you."

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby armynotgoodwithwords » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:53 pm

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Also potentially helpful might be my timeline:
PR'd Spring 2016 (April 19 phone call about 2pm from 202/DC number, email around 5pm)
Connected with recruiter end of May
MEPS Sept 1
Security questionnaire completed early October
Still waiting for commission now


Hello, thanks for posting your timeline. I am a Feb. 2017 applicant and was wondering if you could update your timeline if you have received ODS/NJS dates. I am also interested to know if you took a legal job after the bar while you were waiting to commission/EAD. I am assuming you were a May 2016 grad. Thanks so much!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby armynotgoodwithwords » Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:03 pm

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I already received orders for NJS and my duty station, but not ODS. They told me if I get pushed to a later ODS class they'll have to redo those orders as well. Not sure if that would apply to you too. I hope our duty station assignments won't change!


Hello, I am a 2017 applicant. Would you mind posting what your post commissioning timeline ended being? I am trying to figure out if I need to plan on getting a job between bar exam and ODS (in the event that I am PR'd). Thanks so much!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Husky09 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:59 pm

armynotgoodwithwords wrote:
Husky09 wrote:
Also potentially helpful might be my timeline:
PR'd Spring 2016 (April 19 phone call about 2pm from 202/DC number, email around 5pm)
Connected with recruiter end of May
MEPS Sept 1
Security questionnaire completed early October
Still waiting for commission now


Hello, thanks for posting your timeline. I am a Feb. 2017 applicant and was wondering if you could update your timeline if you have received ODS/NJS dates. I am also interested to know if you took a legal job after the bar while you were waiting to commission/EAD. I am assuming you were a May 2016 grad. Thanks so much!



Updated timeline --
Commissioned 12/19
Got commissioning docs from my recruiter and sent them to Millington 1/9/17 (bc they hadn't gotten there yet)
Received pre-ODS docs 1/25/16 (including duty preference sheet)

No ODS orders yet, hoping to go to April 30 or June 4 ODS:
http://www.med.navy.mil/Accessions/Page ... chool.aspx

I graduated in December 2016 and am taking the Feb bar exam. I do have a job for between graduation and ODS (because I couldn't afford not to - it is a legal-related job, but not JD required), but it is flexible to allow time to study for the bar exam, and then I'll be working full-time post bar until ODS.

I found getting PR'd to be infinitely easier than the post-PR stuff.

Good luck!!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:20 pm

What was hard post-PR? So far (knock on wood) things have been smooth for me

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby hkh2220 » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:48 am

does anyone know what numbers they took for Fall 2016?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:48 am

hkh2220 wrote:does anyone know what numbers they took for Fall 2016?


I haven't seen it posted anywhere but I've heard rumors that it was a harder board than Fall 2015.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby wg6524 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:08 pm

What does the duty station dream sheet look like? Do they give you a list of choices or are you essentially supposed to come up with a list on your own (using the internet of course).

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby joman8390 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:42 pm

wg6524 wrote:What does the duty station dream sheet look like? Do they give you a list of choices or are you essentially supposed to come up with a list on your own (using the internet of course).


They give you a list of choices. If I remember correctly there are 12 and you rank 9 of them.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby ckb525108 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:32 pm

I noticed that the application deadline was extended for the Spring Board. Does anyone know if that will delay the results?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:36 pm

ckb525108 wrote:I noticed that the application deadline was extended for the Spring Board. Does anyone know if that will delay the results?


I doubt that a 3-day delay will have much effect.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby ckb525108 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:57 pm

usn26 wrote:
ckb525108 wrote:I noticed that the application deadline was extended for the Spring Board. Does anyone know if that will delay the results?


I doubt that a 3-day delay will have much effect.


Okay, thank you. I figured as much, but I hadn't seen it done before in the last few application cycles (unless I missed something).



I had a few questions regarding Commissioning/ODS information:

1. How soon after you're PR'd will you receive a commission? I already went through MEPS and was medically cleared back when I was applying to USMC last year (I didn't go to OCS because I accepted the Navy Summer Internship), is that something I should have mentioned on my Navy App? Also, would that speed up my timeline at all?

2. When would one typically receive an ODS date? I ask this because I decided to wait and take the MPRE after the bar. The earliest date I could register to take it afterwards is August 12th, and I noticed that August 12th is the check in date for one of the earlier ODS classes.

I appreciate any responses. :)

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:03 pm

ckb525108 wrote:
1. How soon after you're PR'd will you receive a commission? I already went through MEPS and was medically cleared back when I was applying to USMC last year (I didn't go to OCS because I accepted the Navy Summer Internship), is that something I should have mentioned on my Navy App? Also, would that speed up my timeline at all?

2. When would one typically receive an ODS date? I ask this because I decided to wait and take the MPRE after the bar. The earliest date I could register to take it afterwards is August 12th, and I noticed that August 12th is the check in date for one of the earlier ODS classes.

I appreciate any responses. :)


1. I think 4-6 months is average, assuming no unusual medical issues that require a waiver. I was PR'd last December, and am just about done with the process now and am just waiting on my commissioning documents. My recruiter told me to expect them to take 3-4 weeks to arrive. So for me it'll be about 4 months. I believe you can use a an old medical clearance if it's within a year or two, but your recruiter might just send you back to MEPs anyway.

2. I think they typically send people to ODS in August or October, depending on if your state does bar results early or late. Keep in mind you can go to ODS while awaiting bar results, but you can't go to NJS without having passed.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:34 pm

PRed in December, commissioning on Friday to give people a sense of timeline. I got the sense when I talked to millington that this was on the faster side

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:40 pm

Got a call from accessions asking when I was taking the bar this summer. Told me forms would be following soon via email.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby dannyswo » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:03 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:PRed in December, commissioning on Friday to give people a sense of timeline. I got the sense when I talked to millington that this was on the faster side

Congrats, man. St. Patty's Day, too. Easy to remember. :D

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:52 am

TheSpanishMain wrote:PRed in December, commissioning on Friday to give people a sense of timeline. I got the sense when I talked to millington that this was on the faster side


Congrats, Ensign!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:14 pm

Thanks. I just lost two pay grades but it's all good. :lol:

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby ckb525108 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:50 pm

I just spoke with someone over at OJAG, and the selection rate for the fall was at 10%. I was told they anticipate the spring selection rate to be about the same at 10%. They also said we should hear back around the second or third week of April.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby baileymjd » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:33 pm

ckb525108 wrote:I just spoke with someone over at OJAG, and the selection rate for the fall was at 10%. I was told they anticipate the spring selection rate to be about the same at 10%. They also said we should hear back around the second or third week of April.



Thanks for the info!! Any idea what the breakdowns were? 2Ls v. 3Ls?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby ckb525108 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:09 pm

baileymjd wrote:
ckb525108 wrote:I just spoke with someone over at OJAG, and the selection rate for the fall was at 10%. I was told they anticipate the spring selection rate to be about the same at 10%. They also said we should hear back around the second or third week of April.



Thanks for the info!! Any idea what the breakdowns were? 2Ls v. 3Ls?



I know they took 18 3L's...I'm not sure about 2L's

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:10 pm

Just checking in. Hope all is well!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:09 am

S. Goodman wrote:Just checking in. Hope all is well!


Hey Saul! You just finished up in December at NJS, yeh? How long were you given between your NJS finish date and your report by date to your first duty station?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:28 am

S. Goodman wrote:Just checking in. Hope all is well!


What's up man? How's being a real life lawyer treating you?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:54 am

Ramrezyeh wrote:
S. Goodman wrote:Just checking in. Hope all is well!


Hey Saul! You just finished up in December at NJS, yeh? How long were you given between your NJS finish date and your report by date to your first duty station?



It's based on miles from NJS to your duty station. I had four days. I got to my area on a Saturday, started work on Monday. We were on holiday stand down when I got to work. So every weekend was a four day weekend, and Tuesday Wednesday, and Thursday were half days.




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