Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby andrew88 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:19 pm

PR'd as Alternate for the DA program!

Are all Alternates ranked ?

Good luck to everyone!!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Rose41 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:09 pm

My status still says "pending" so does that probably mean I have not been professionally recommended?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby baileymjd » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:33 pm

Rose41 wrote:My status still says "pending" so does that probably mean I have not been professionally recommended?


Yeah, that's usually what it means if selections have already gone out, but keep applying!! They like re-applicants. Good luck!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:03 am

Good Luck everyone. Just for reference, this seems like it was a very very competitive board. This is an excerpt from the powers that be in the jag corps:

"The Spring 2017 Accession Selection Board was held 28-30 March 2017. The board was composed of [OFFICERS].

This board professionally recommended 3I Student Program candidates from a pool of 330 impressive applicants, for a selection rate of 9.3%. The class includes 14 women and 17 men from various backgrounds representing 26 different law schools. Eight have completed internships or externships with the Navy JAG Corps. Our future colleagues are those who continue the high academic and intellectual reputation of the Navy JAG Corps by having participated in moot court and mock trial competitions, as well as having served as editors for law review and other law school journals. They speak a host of languages including Korean, Spanish, Japanese, and Malayalam, and have studied or worked abroad in places such as Costa Rica, Argentina, Germany, Japan and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Many of our future judge advocates have prior military experience, including a former Legalman First Class. Other individuals have worked at the U.S. House of Representatives, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Teach for America, and in various state government positions. This class also includes former college athletes in tennis, rugby, lacrosse and soccer. The diversity of skills and backgrounds these impressive candidates bring to the table will strengthen the ability of the JAG Corps to provide superb legal solutions across the full spectrum of missions and operational environments."

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby shintopig » Mon May 01, 2017 1:10 am

S. Goodman wrote:This board professionally recommended 3I Student Program candidates from a pool of 330 impressive applicants, for a selection rate of 9.3%.



Whoah. It was 20%-ish just a couple years ago. Looks like the anticipated build-up is slowing down back to it's regular historical 9%-ish rate.

Congrats to all who were accepted, can't wait to see you all in the fleet!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Mon May 01, 2017 4:02 pm

baileymjd wrote: They like re-applicants.


This is true. If you applied and weren't selected, I know it blows but try not to let it get inside your head too much and make you think you suck. JAG accessions is just a weird animal. I've seen people get dinged who, at least on paper, were great applicants, and people who were maybe not as strong get accepted. It's kind of a crapshoot. If you got dinged, it doesn't mean you have a shitty resume or anything. Just means the Magic 8 ball didn't spit your name out on this attempt.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Sun May 07, 2017 3:04 pm

A few questions for people at NJS/in the fleet already:

1) When did you get your first duty station?

2) Did you get any time off between NJS and reporting to your first assignment to house hunt?

3) Can you leave the immediate area during NJS?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby S. Goodman » Mon May 08, 2017 2:37 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:A few questions for people at NJS/in the fleet already:

1) When did you get your first duty station?

2) Did you get any time off between NJS and reporting to your first assignment to house hunt?

3) Can you leave the immediate area during NJS?


1. It varies based on the Detailer. I knew mine before ods, but not long before. I can't recall how soon before I found out, but I remember being contacted by my sponsor while I was still home waiting to head out.

2. You get your base travel time, which is based on how far away Newport is from your base. Usually about 4 ish days. Any time you take after that is charged as leave. You can get house hunting liberty but you have to ask for it and it's subject to command approval.

3. Yes, but there is a limit you can't go beyond without submitting a chit. It's just a simple form and everyone's get approved. You can basically go wherever you want just have a reasonable plan to get back in time. NYC etc. Boston was within the limit, no chit required. It's a good opportunity to travel!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue May 16, 2017 2:56 pm

Anyone know when we should see ODS orders? Spoke to the detailer the other day, looks like I'll be in the October ODS/January NJS (late results state.)

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby thelincolnlawyer » Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:28 pm

Is it normal not to get a response after submitting externship materials to the email provided? My recommender did not get a confirmation when they submitted a LOR, and I did not get a response after emailing two questions about the application

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby usn26 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:31 am

thelincolnlawyer wrote:Is it normal not to get a response after submitting externship materials to the email provided? My recommender did not get a confirmation when they submitted a LOR, and I did not get a response after emailing two questions about the application


I've never gotten a response.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:58 am

does any one know what happens with health insurance during the 4 weeks in September/October they kick you back into IRR? I know you don't get paid, but I wasn't sure if they also kicked you off the insurance as well or if you aren't on it at ODS.

Just a random thought I had while sitting here waiting for orders and studying for the bar..

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:45 am

Ramrezyeh wrote:does any one know what happens with health insurance during the 4 weeks in September/October they kick you back into IRR? I know you don't get paid, but I wasn't sure if they also kicked you off the insurance as well or if you aren't on it at ODS.

Just a random thought I had while sitting here waiting for orders and studying for the bar..


Pretty sure you're on your own. I don't think you're on Tricare between ODS-NJS.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby andrew88 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:33 pm

Has anyone from the Spring 2017 board been assigned a recruiter yet?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby gladiator0flaw11 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:51 pm

Invited via Marine Core, what's the difference between area of military if we're in court for a few years? Just need to be off my ADHD meds for 6 months before I ship out

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:07 am

gladiator0flaw11 wrote:Invited via Marine Core, what's the difference between area of military if we're in court for a few years? Just need to be off my ADHD meds for 6 months before I ship out


Is this English?

Anyway, I don't really get what you're asking. What do you mean the difference between "area of military"? Like different geographical assignments? Different services, like Army vs. Navy vs. Air Force? What do you mean you were "invited via Marine Core"? You were offered a commission by the Marine Corps, or you were invited to apply? What exactly are you asking here?

Frankly, you seem pretty lost. I'm skeptical that someone who spells it "Marine Core" got through the application process.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:43 am

Orders came through for August 13th ODS. It's official.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:53 am

Ramrezyeh wrote:Orders came through for August 13th ODS. It's official.


Nice. Via email?

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby Ramrezyeh » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:09 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:
Ramrezyeh wrote:Orders came through for August 13th ODS. It's official.


Nice. Via email?


Yes.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:20 pm

Cool. Nothing for me, but I've been told I'll be in the October class anyway.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:39 pm

Bump to see if anyone who is going to the October ODS has heard anything/gotten orders.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby thelincolnlawyer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:17 am

I was selected for an externship this fall and will also be applying for the fall board as a 2L. I received 2 letters of recommendations from professors when applying to the externship and was hoping to use the same for the SP application, along with 1-2 LORs from the externship if I can get to know people well enough by the deadline. Since the internship/externship process and student program are handled by different branches (and different emails), does anyone know if I can just ask code61 to email them over to the navyaccessions email for my SP application? Both of the professors provided the LORs directly to the email, and not to me.

I am going to call and ask this question once the application opens, I was just curious if anyone on here has had any experience with this.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:58 pm

thelincolnlawyer wrote:I was selected for an externship this fall and will also be applying for the fall board as a 2L. I received 2 letters of recommendations from professors when applying to the externship and was hoping to use the same for the SP application, along with 1-2 LORs from the externship if I can get to know people well enough by the deadline. Since the internship/externship process and student program are handled by different branches (and different emails), does anyone know if I can just ask code61 to email them over to the navyaccessions email for my SP application? Both of the professors provided the LORs directly to the email, and not to me.

I am going to call and ask this question once the application opens, I was just curious if anyone on here has had any experience with this.


I'd just ask Code 61 if they can email you those LORs. The SP application will have you upload everything as a PDF. It's probably simpler for you to just do it yourself.

You probably won't have enough time to get LORs from the externship before the deadline. It's a little weird to ask someone to write you a recommendation when you've been there a week. But make sure you get them regardless. If you need to reapply they'll come in handy.

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby jbrennanmac » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:53 pm

Hi there,

First time poster here--thanks to all who have maintained this thread. Reading through it has given me more information than I've been able to find anywhere else about the JAG selection process. I am starting law school this fall and have had an interest in a Navy JAG career for quite a while. It certainly isn't my only reason for attending law school, but it is a path I would very interested in pursuing. My question is regarding medical waivers--I was born with strabismus (basically, born cross-eyed), and I had 4 corrective surgeries for it as a child. The last one was prior to my freshman year of high school, so well over a decade ago. I wear moderate-strength contacts/ glasses and have mild astigmatism (I currently don't wear astigmatism-correcting lenses because I find them a bit uncomfortable and don't particularly need 20/20 vision in my civilian life, but I certainly could). My vision is fine, depth perception isn't great, but obviously this doesn't pose any issues towards being a good attorney. However, I don't know if this will disqualify me from military service.

I know vision requirements seem unrelated to this thread, but I have had trouble finding any info on vision waivers for staff officers vs pilots, SEALS, etc. If anyone has any experience with medical waivers for vision, I'd love to hear it--I'd hate to invest time and hope in pursuing a JAG career only to be thwarted at the end for my eyesight. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have!

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Re: Military Law - Navy Jag Student Program

Postby TheSpanishMain » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:57 pm

jbrennanmac wrote:I know vision requirements seem unrelated to this thread, but I have had trouble finding any info on vision waivers for staff officers vs pilots, SEALS, etc. If anyone has any experience with medical waivers for vision, I'd love to hear it--I'd hate to invest time and hope in pursuing a JAG career only to be thwarted at the end for my eyesight. Thanks in advance for any advice anyone might have!


I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the only differences in medical requirements as far as vision goes are between pilots and non-pilots. I don't believe JAGs have more leeway than, say, submariners. If you do some Googling, you should be able to find the Navy commissioning medical requirements.

I suspect what you're describing would be waivable, but you're smart to do some research before you invest a lot of time and energy in pursuing a JAG spot.




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