BruceWayne wrote:It's amazing how bad the info on this website is when it comes to the academic experience @ top schools. Straight lmao @ "discretionary B-" and "have to try to get a C". I've had people who landed top grades look at "C" exams in shock at what it actually takes to get B- and C grades @ my top 10. It sure as hell not just an "outline dump". Basically all it takes is to be subjectively worse in any way than a class full of ivy league/Stanford etc. 99 percentile salutorians and valedictorians. Want one example of what qualifies? Typing 10 pages or less on your exam answer.
That being said an F truly is exceptional and should really only be used where students skip the exam or clearly don't take the exam seriously. Other than that a professor giving out F's is being completely irresponsible and a jackass.
depends on the "T10." LP/B- is discretionary sometimes and would really be the lowest a student would receive for a good faith effort. and you can interpret "good faith" very loosely; I mean, if you showed up and wrote something, in english, on the subject of the course, that bore some relation to the fact pattern or question being asked.
You are right that to be near the bottom of the curve isn't actually that hard at a top school when you are competing against other bright kids who can write. However, if your exam is just worse than everyone else's, that doesn't necessarily mean you'll receiving a trash grade, you will most likely just get the bottom grade on the curve. You typically do have to do something "negative" rather than just neutral to receive a discretionary grade. For example, making blatantly incorrect or inappropriate statements about very simple legal principles, rather than just forgetting to cite or mention them.