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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby arklaw13 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:38 pm

The fuck kind of question is that? You think a judge in the 8th circuit cares more about what a three judge panel in the 9th circuit said than what a three judge panel in the 10th circuit said? I doubt it. You could arguably say that the DC circuit might be more revered generally, but not enough to sway a different circuit court one way or another.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby stillwater » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:40 pm

I think there are judges that are seen as more authoritative. But I don't know if circuits themselves carry any inherent weight.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Rurik » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:50 pm

For corporate / bankruptcy law, 2d Circuit or 3d Circuit. At least that's been my experience as a junior associate in biglaw, drafting motions and such.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:28 pm

I did once sit in on an assemblage of judges where one of the judges made an offhand comment about never paying attention "to a circuit divisible by 3." But generally I don't think any one circuit trumps. For one thing, the only circuit that really matters is the one that governs your case. (Unless you're in state court, then screw 'em all.)

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby encore1101 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:40 pm

Inversely, I get the impression that the 9th Circuit is derided more than the others, but it could just be the observer-expectancy effect.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby 2014 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:07 pm

Not enough Posner/Easterbrook love in here yet

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby target » Sat Jan 25, 2014 1:41 pm

2014 wrote:Not enough Posner/Easterbrook love in here yet


Sorry, I am a Diane Wood fan. 8)

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby TTRansfer » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:19 pm

Clearly the 9th.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby elterrible78 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:31 pm

2014 wrote:Not enough Posner/Easterbrook love in here yet


I heard that Easterbrook once said something along the lines of believing he'd save time on making the correct decision by looking at what the 9th circuit had done and then doing the opposite.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:35 pm

7th Circuit is TCR.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Hipster but Athletic » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:39 pm

9th is just weird. Id think of it as the most volatile. FEHA and ridiculous liberalism fucks up a lot of the l&e and shit for nationwide applicability, but the presence and needs of Hollywood and high tech sometimes makes it groundbreaking/revolutionary.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby TTRansfer » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:10 pm

Hipster but Athletic wrote:9th is just weird. Id think of it as the most volatile. FEHA and ridiculous liberalism fucks up a lot of the l&e and shit for nationwide applicability, but the presence and needs of Hollywood and high tech sometimes makes it groundbreaking/revolutionary.


I want to see them go super en band one day.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Hipster but Athletic » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:14 pm

Also the answer to OP's question is the Federal Circuit. All matters it decides, at least.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby patogordo » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:43 pm

6th is the most reversed

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby It's A Lion » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:19 pm

stillwater wrote:I think there are judges that are seen as more authoritative. But I don't know if circuits themselves carry any inherent weight.


This is probably pretty accurate. People have written law review articles about the most cited judges.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby 3|ink » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:57 pm

Least persuasive: 5th and 11th

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:02 pm

Who is the second best COA judge currently?

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby stillwater » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:06 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Who is the second best COA judge currently?


who are we assuming is number 1? the incomparable Richard A. Posner?

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby daryldixon » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:07 pm

9th is the biggest.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:08 pm

stillwater wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Who is the second best COA judge currently?


who are we assuming is number 1? the incomparable Richard A. Posner?


Is there anyone else? Kozinski is maybe a close second.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby stillwater » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:10 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
stillwater wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Who is the second best COA judge currently?


who are we assuming is number 1? the incomparable Richard A. Posner?


Is there anyone else? Kozinski is maybe a close second.


a DISTANT second

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby brotherdarkness » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:11 pm

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:16 pm

Posner isn't an asshole to his clerks so that would give him the edge even if they were equal in their reputations.

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Re: The Most Persuasive Circuit

Postby brotherdarkness » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:17 pm

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