Final Exams Suck

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Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:20 pm

There must be a better way.
Why is this a thing?

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Presidentjlh
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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Presidentjlh » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:25 pm

Because.

Now suck it up and get back to work

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Swimp » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:26 pm

How did you make it to law school if you're this whiny about taking tests?

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:27 pm

Presidentjlh wrote:Because.

Now suck it up and get back to work


That doesn't make sense.

Why not make a solution?

(That's what I would do.)

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:27 pm

Swimp wrote:How did you make it to law school if you're this whiny about taking tests?



Well, now -- that's just rude.
I wouldn't say that to you.


Mind your manners, son.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby brotherdarkness » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:15 pm

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:34 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:This thread sucks.


YOUR MOM SUCKS

You know what, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I've been having a tough few days at work and I took it out on you, but you didn't deserve that. I'm sure your mother is a lovely woman.

Friends?

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby northwood » Sat Dec 07, 2013 6:26 pm

BigRob wrote:There must be a better way.
Why is this a thing?



because the bar exam is like a law school final on steroids, times 20 subjects, unmercifully shoved down your throat over 2 days for 8 hours each day...

and because profs want the next generation to suffer like they did

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Mr.Throwback » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:08 pm

Finals should be a one-on-one session with your professor wherein she grills you for three hours about the course. She gives a couple writing assignments, asks you various questions, and analyzes your ability as a potential lawyer.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Geaux12 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:19 pm

Mr.Throwback wrote:Finals should be a one-on-one session with your professor wherein she grills you for three hours about the course. She gives a couple writing assignments, asks you various questions, and analyzes your ability as a potential lawyer.


That would be ridiculously subjective. I understand that life can often be subjective, but you can't build a curriculum, much less a system of education, around that kind of shit.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby ph14 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:37 pm

Finals should be kept at is for 1L. For 2L you should get 2 options to retroactively change your grade to "credit" (i.e., credit/no credit). 3L year should be graded entirely on a credit/no credit basis.

YW, law schools.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:41 pm

Geaux12 wrote:
Mr.Throwback wrote:Finals should be a one-on-one session with your professor wherein she grills you for three hours about the course. She gives a couple writing assignments, asks you various questions, and analyzes your ability as a potential lawyer.


That would be ridiculously subjective. I understand that life can often be subjective, but you can't build a curriculum, much less a system of education, around that kind of shit.


So what if it's subjective, it's still better than what we have now. The only redeeming quality about the current system is that it does spread out the class by work ethic rather nicely. But really it's only testing people who commit to playing the game. I know lots of students who just put in enough to get by because the system is so dumb. I mean seriously, memorizing details about inter-jurisdictional "majority rules" that everyone is going to forget in three weeks...

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Presidentjlh » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:49 pm

If you think finals are just about memorization, you're doing it wrong.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Geaux12 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:50 pm

Presidentjlh wrote:If you think finals are just about memorization, you're doing it wrong.


Because those fact patterns have so much variation.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Mr.Throwback » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:51 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Geaux12 wrote:
Mr.Throwback wrote:Finals should be a one-on-one session with your professor wherein she grills you for three hours about the course. She gives a couple writing assignments, asks you various questions, and analyzes your ability as a potential lawyer.


That would be ridiculously subjective. I understand that life can often be subjective, but you can't build a curriculum, much less a system of education, around that kind of shit.


So what if it's subjective, it's still better than what we have now. The only redeeming quality about the current system is that it does spread out the class by work ethic rather nicely. But really it's only testing people who commit to playing the game. I know lots of students who just put in enough to get by because the system is so dumb. I mean seriously, memorizing details about inter-jurisdictional "majority rules" that everyone is going to forget in three weeks...


This is exactly my point.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Mr.Throwback » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:53 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ynTbY944Q

Like this ^, but a lot more rigorous.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:08 pm

Presidentjlh wrote:If you think finals are just about memorization, you're doing it wrong.


Agree. You still have to know the course cold to do well, though. Meaning you have to memorize a ton of bullshit erm I mean "law." Sorry law.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby stillwater » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:37 pm

Lord Randolph McDuff wrote:
Presidentjlh wrote:If you think finals are just about memorization, you're doing it wrong.


Agree. You still have to know the course cold to do well, though. Meaning you have to memorize a ton of bullshit erm I mean "law." Sorry law.


memorization is everything. application is so easy a monkey could do it.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:32 am

Why haven't you said,
"He has been writing haikus"?
This isn't a haiku.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:13 am

Swimp wrote:How did you make it to law school if you're this whiny about taking tests?

Almost anyone one with a pulse can make it to law school

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby brotherdarkness » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 am

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:53 am

brotherdarkness wrote:I posted this on Reddit earlier in response to a law student asking about finals stress, but just to put something serious ITT:

Second week of finals is about to start. I have my next, and last, exam (income tax) on Tuesday afternoon. I'm vacillating between feeling that I know tax law and feeling that I'm going to get ravaged by the curve.

I haven't been sleeping or eating enough, I've been consuming far too much caffeine, but things could be worse. I keep reminding myself that there are billions of people who would love to take my place should they be given the opportunity and that the fact that I'm taking these exams is a privilege, not a plight. I see a lot of 1Ls who seem to have forgotten that they're at one of the best law schools in the nation and receiving an education that will lead many of them to biglaw. Perspective, my friends, perspective. Things could be far worse.


Fixed that for you.

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby sublime » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:30 am

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby BigRob » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:45 am

sublime wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:This thread sucks.


And it seems I generally do as well.

Also, +1 to BD's serious post.



Often when I want to complain, I consider that the vast majority of my friends do not have an AA even and are stuck working in shit, dead end jobs, while I get to go to a cushy private university for cheap just to study and learn shit, while not even having to work.

I have seen some shit in my life, LS doesn't even scratch the surface, it will be fine, even if it's not.


Fixed that for you.

(I'm going mad with power.)

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Re: Final Exams Suck

Postby sublime » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:46 am

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