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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby brotherdarkness » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:17 pm

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:29 pm

You'll be fine :)

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby stillwater » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:31 pm

thesealocust wrote:You'll be fine :)


is the theme of this thread becoming TSL leads the unwitting lambs to the slaughter with kind words and comforting nod?

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:27 pm

Like every other post I've made on TLS has been about crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women. If you want TheSeaLocust to be your 1L cage-match arms dealer, there are other threads where he will be happy to oblige.

In this one he will merely remind you that 1L is silly artificial stress, law school and the legal profession are designed to produce anxiety, and that everything will be just fine no matter how things shake out.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby shifty_eyed » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:34 pm

I'm going back over my outlines and adding stuff instead of condensing. Am I doing it wrong?

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:41 pm

shifty_eyed wrote:I'm going back over my outlines and adding stuff instead of condensing. Am I doing it wrong?


Of course not - you'll be fine!

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby masterbrowski » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:54 pm

I'll play the devil's advocate here: You're all screwed. If you don't have all-encompassing one page outlines for every class by now, you will get straight C's, strike out at OCI, and end up scraping gum off the bottoms of tables at Dave and Busters while the rest of us are dancing the harlem shake at extravagant weddings for the daughters of rainmaker partners.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby helix23 » Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:43 pm

masterbrowski wrote:I'll play the devil's advocate here: You're all screwed. If you don't have all-encompassing one page outlines for every class by now, you will get straight C's, strike out at OCI, and end up scraping gum off the bottoms of tables at Dave and Busters while the rest of us are dancing the harlem shake at extravagant weddings for the daughters of rainmaker partners.


will they be at OCI?

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby masterbrowski » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:05 pm

helix23 wrote:
masterbrowski wrote:I'll play the devil's advocate here: You're all screwed. If you don't have all-encompassing one page outlines for every class by now, you will get straight C's, strike out at OCI, and end up scraping gum off the bottoms of tables at Dave and Busters while the rest of us are dancing the harlem shake at extravagant weddings for the daughters of rainmaker partners.


will they be at OCI?


Bah-dum Tssshhh

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby sublime » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:23 pm

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby kay2016 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:27 pm

I feel pretty comfortable with torts and crim law.. My outlines aren't finished but my torts outline is less than 15, my crim is approaching 40.

Just do whatever works for you!

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby criminaltheory » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:34 pm

sublime wrote:Could someone reassure me that outline lengths don't mean anything?

As I continue to go through stuff, I will add as needed, but right now my Torts outline is 10 pages compared to 15-20, if not more for most. And my Contracts outline is looking like it will end up around 20-25 pages, while others range from 30-60. Am I doing something wrong?


Totally doing something right.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:38 pm

sublime wrote:Could someone reassure me that outline lengths don't mean anything?

As I continue to go through stuff, I will add as needed, but right now my Torts outline is 10 pages compared to 15-20, if not more for most. And my Contracts outline is looking like it will end up around 20-25 pages, while others range from 30-60. Am I doing something wrong?


They don't mean anything. Are you worried they are too short? My 1L outlines were between 10 and 15 pages each and I did alright in law school : )

Are you worried they are too long? Nah, definitely just fine.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby KD35 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:49 pm

thesealocust wrote:
sublime wrote:Could someone reassure me that outline lengths don't mean anything?

As I continue to go through stuff, I will add as needed, but right now my Torts outline is 10 pages compared to 15-20, if not more for most. And my Contracts outline is looking like it will end up around 20-25 pages, while others range from 30-60. Am I doing something wrong?


They don't mean anything. Are you worried they are too short? My 1L outlines were between 10 and 15 pages each and I did alright in law school : )

Are you worried they are too long? Nah, definitely just fine.


This helps. Our school hosted a panel of 2Ls and 3Ls who are in the top 10% and they were asked about how long each of their outlines are and they ranged from 60-70 for one person to some girl who said "Over 100."
I was sitting there with my 14 page outline in my hand and just shook my head as other 1Ls gasped and had nervous breakdowns.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby stillwater » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:53 pm

KD35 wrote:
thesealocust wrote:
sublime wrote:Could someone reassure me that outline lengths don't mean anything?

As I continue to go through stuff, I will add as needed, but right now my Torts outline is 10 pages compared to 15-20, if not more for most. And my Contracts outline is looking like it will end up around 20-25 pages, while others range from 30-60. Am I doing something wrong?


They don't mean anything. Are you worried they are too short? My 1L outlines were between 10 and 15 pages each and I did alright in law school : )

Are you worried they are too long? Nah, definitely just fine.


This helps. Our school hosted a panel of 2Ls and 3Ls who are in the top 10% and they were asked about how long each of their outlines are and they ranged from 60-70 for one person to some girl who said "Over 100."
I was sitting there with my 14 page outline in my hand and just shook my head as other 1Ls gasped and had nervous breakdowns.


i finished at the top of my 1L class and my outlines were max 20 pages. MAX. that was my long-form outline. i usually had a 1-2 page attack outline that operated as a checklist. a 100 page outline come exam time is like going to war with your accordion.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby SoCrazyRightNow » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:16 am

stillwater wrote:
is the theme of this thread becoming TSL leads the unwitting lambs to the slaughter with kind words and comforting nod?



I respect that.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:35 am

My current outline plan is as follows:
1) Index/Table of contents for quick lookup
2) 1 page checklist
3) 10 page black letter law section composed primarily of restatements
4) 50 page monster in case there's some detail I forget

My plan is to only look at the 50 page outline if there is some detail I'm unsure of. It's more of a security blanket than anything else. Thoughts?

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:58 am

No strategy here. It sounds like you're working very hard. You'll be fine :)

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby espressocream » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:05 pm

Will I be okay if I'm not top 10%? This seems hopeless. Everyone is seemingly working way harder while I just study at a snail's pace.

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Postby brotherdarkness » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:12 pm

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:25 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
espressocream wrote:Will I be okay if I'm not top 10%? This seems hopeless. Everyone is seemingly working way harder while I just study at a snail's pace.

Depends on a number of things, the most important being what school you go to. If you're not in the top 10% at HYS, you'll be okay (unless you define okay as summering with Wachtell and being on the fast-track to a Supreme Court clerkship). The farther you drift from the T14, the dicier things get outside of the top 10%. If you're eligible to sit for the patent bar or have some incredible work experience (Goldman, PWC, etc.), you will have a leg up. URM status might provide a boost, but I've heard it's not comparable to law school admissions.

Having said all of that, I should add that YMMV. Does your family have a firm and you're in law school simply to get the degree? If so, graduate and pass the bar. Are more interested in working for a small firm rather than a big firm? Well, then, top 10% might not be as important as the "networking" schtick you'll hear from career services. Are you gunning for PI? I'm sure grades are important, but a demonstrable interest (clinics and other real-world experience) can make or break you.



Of course you will!

It's just law school.

espressocream wrote:This seems hopeless. Everyone is seemingly working way harder while I just study at a snail's pace.


It's just an anxious time - block everyone else out, and believe me, they're terrified and feel like they're slacking and putting on airs too.

You'll be fine. You're not behind.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby espressocream » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:30 pm

None of my outlines are done and apparently I thought I was above taking notes in K for the past month. First exam in a week. My plan for studying doesn't even make sense anymore.

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Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby chem! » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:32 pm

espressocream wrote:None of my outlines are done and apparently I thought I was above taking notes in K for the past month. First exam in a week. My plan for studying doesn't even make sense anymore.

You can do it. Prioritize your outlines and distill them as best you can. YOU CAN DO IT.

I haven't gotten as far along as I wanted, but I know myself too well and if I start too early, I will fizzle out. I need a bit of that pressure to get it done.




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