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Postby thesealocust » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:29 pm

:lol: just trying to not be COMPLETELY repetitive

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Postby desiballa21 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:04 pm

espressocream wrote:Panicking about this memo due next week. Still don't know what I'm doing.


yes you do. find the cases, find the rules, and write. you got this.

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Postby arklaw13 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:35 am

JazzOne wrote:
Dylanlj13 wrote:Word limit for open memo was 3,000. Turned mine it at 3,300. Professor didn't seem like she cared that much about the word count, because it's a department-wide thing, but it's still there. Am I fucked? I think a lot of people went over because they got the impression that she wouldn't care.

P/F? I think you're good.

Graded LRW? Why the hell would you do that?


My box of fucks ran out basically. It's only worth half as much as a doctrinal class anyway. I'd be more than satisfied with a B+. Our memo rubric is basically a bunch of boxes to be checked. It was either have all those boxes checked and go over the word count, or leave stuff undone and be under the word count. I don't actually know how much formatting and bluebooking goes into the grade because our grade on our closed universe memo consisted of a score with no breakdown or explanation, along with the bottom-third and top-third cutoff scores.

In a perfect world, I think the memo that's substantively better but over the word limit should score higher than the substantively worse memo that's within the word limit. I mean how much can you really ding someone for a 10% deviation? I guess I'll find out in a few weeks.

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Postby kay2016 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:37 am

My professor says if you go over the line limit she stops reading.

So hopefully your professor takes a more holistic approach

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Postby arklaw13 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:46 am

kay2016 wrote:My professor says if you go over the line limit she stops reading.

So hopefully your professor takes a more holistic approach


I've seen professors say that for exams. I would never go over on an exam.

For our memo's the only time I've ever seen my word count written on the page is by the TA, who only looks for formatting and bluebooking stuff. The professors grades the substantive stuff. So it's not altogether clear to me that the professor would be concerned with my word count at the front end of grading.

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Postby brotherdarkness » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:03 am

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Postby arklaw13 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:11 am

brotherdarkness wrote:
Dylanlj13 wrote:
kay2016 wrote:My professor says if you go over the line limit she stops reading.

So hopefully your professor takes a more holistic approach


I've seen professors say that for exams. I would never go over on an exam.

For our memo's the only time I've ever seen my word count written on the page is by the TA, who only looks for formatting and bluebooking stuff. The professors grades the substantive stuff. So it's not altogether clear to me that the professor would be concerned with my word count at the front end of grading.


My LRW prof called me to her office to explain why I was one word over on my word count. I wasn't, according to my computer, but hers showed that I was one word past the limit. Some LRW profs can be sticklers.


Ouch. Not sure how that would work with anonymous memo grading. I can't imagine getting docked that many points though. Grade wise I guess I could have a big impact since the difference between a B+ and a B might not be much in terms of raw score.

I was looking for rubrics for memos and I actually haven't found one with any discernible place for word count. I guess they either don't have a word limit or just penalize you separately if you go over. Hmmm.

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Postby Danger Zone » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:47 am

brotherdarkness wrote:My LRW prof called me to her office to explain why I was one word over on my word count. I wasn't, according to my computer, but hers showed that I was one word past the limit.

Did you tell her to jump off a bridge?

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Postby arklaw13 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:42 pm

Danger Zone wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:My LRW prof called me to her office to explain why I was one word over on my word count. I wasn't, according to my computer, but hers showed that I was one word past the limit.

Did you tell her to jump off a bridge?


Prof must have had dat adjunct napoleon complex.

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Postby brotherdarkness » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:04 pm

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Postby Frothingslosh » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:21 pm

My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?

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Postby ThinkNegative » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:25 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:
brotherdarkness wrote:My LRW prof called me to her office to explain why I was one word over on my word count. I wasn't, according to my computer, but hers showed that I was one word past the limit.

Did you tell her to jump off a bridge?


I don't have a way with words like you, DZ ;)

She did happen to be walking behind me (without me knowing) while I told another student about how much I despised her and her class, though.


Possibly relevant:

My version of ms Word (Mac OS) counts a proper three-period, three-space ellipse as THREE WORDS in the native word count function. So every time you carve up a quote for a citation, you're adding "three words" where there really are none.

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Postby MarkinKansasCity » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:27 pm

ThinkNegative wrote:Possibly relevant:

My version of ms Word (Mac OS) counts a proper three-period, three-space ellipse as THREE WORDS in the native word count function. So every time you carve up a quote for a citation, you're adding "three words" where there really are none.


I'm using Word 2010 on a PC, and if you put three periods in a row, with no spaces, it automatically turns them into an ellipse, and counts it as no words. If you add spaces, then three words.

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Postby brotherdarkness » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:11 pm

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Postby shock259 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:37 pm

Frothingslosh wrote:My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?


No need to fear yet. I don't think contracts ever really "clicked" for me in the way that some classes do. And it went fine. But I'd get a hornbook soon to start getting a feel for the big picture.

You got this!

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Postby sinfiery » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:04 pm

Frothingslosh wrote:My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?

Yep. I bought a hornbook in an attempt to teach the class to myself. Apparently the exam is not related to class in the slightest so its basically who can teach themselves the class the best

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Postby stillwater » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:07 pm

Frothingslosh wrote:My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?


was the same for me but with civpro. see this as an opportunity. get a supp, figure out some frameworks of analysis and then shred the exam. i really think a teacher that doesn't lay it all out (or at all) is the best opportunity you have to beat the curve.

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Postby arklaw13 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:09 pm

Frothingslosh wrote:My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?


Like, doesn't believe in binding himself contractually, or doesn't believe in binding agreements on a theoretical level?

My prof doesn't think that at-will employment is a contractual relationship. I don't really remember her argument, but I don't think I bought it at the time.

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Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:09 pm

But the thing is, if you have a contract, it's by definition not at-will employment.
Sorry, thinking of something else! ignore.

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Postby Frothingslosh » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:10 pm

arklaw13 wrote:
Frothingslosh wrote:My contracts professor doesn't believe in contracts. Also, he doesn't actually teach anything - he just asks a series of questions, never gives any answers, and stares coldly into a sea of clueless 1Ls who are too afraid to say anything. We also have a practice exam next weekend. Is it normal to feel like you know next to nothing about contracts this late in the game?


Like, doesn't believe in binding himself contractually, or doesn't believe in binding agreements on a theoretical level?

My prof doesn't think that at-will employment is a contractual relationship. I don't really remember her argument, but I don't think I bought it at the time.


Like, he basically sees any sort of binding agreement as unconscionable and that our society would be better served without them. He's sort of walking that eccentric genius/mad scientist line and his tangents are ridiculously hard to follow.

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Postby sublime » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:16 pm

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Postby kay2016 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:31 pm

sublime wrote:How do you know when an open memo is "done?" Does such a thing exist?



As I am POSITIVE mine is not done, I'm hoping I'll know it when I see it?

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Postby MarkinKansasCity » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:58 pm

sublime wrote:How do you know when an open memo is "done?" Does such a thing exist?

Right after you slit your wrists.

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Postby desiballa21 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:04 pm

how many days y'all getting for your final memos?

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Postby Birdnals » Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:05 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:But the thing is, if you have a contract, it's by definition not at-will employment.


This isn't true, employment contracts presume at-will and the at-will rule can be contracted around. You probably don't have to worry about this until you take employment law but didn't want you saying something like this on an exam. :wink:




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