TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

(Study Tips, Dealing With Stress, Maintaining a Social Life, Financial Aid, Internships, Bar Exam, Careers in Law . . . )
User avatar
brotherdarkness
Posts: 3254
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:11 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby brotherdarkness » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:27 pm

.
Last edited by brotherdarkness on Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:29 pm

brotherdarkness wrote:
sublime wrote:TSL, do you have any thoughts about using a supplement to make the base of your outline then adding cases/class notes into it? Or is it better to try to just create it yourself completely?


Not TSL (obviously), but my unsolicited opinion is as follows:

Use your syllabus to structure your outline (i.e., create headings). This way, you know from the start that you aren't missing anything that your professor covered and you don't include anything that you're professor didn't cover. Start filling in the outline with your own notes and, when you have gaps or need to flesh something out a little bit more, turn to a supplement. At the end, compare your outline to one from your school's outline bank, a friendly 2L/3L, etc., to ensure that you're not missing anything fundamental.


That makes sense to me. Using a supplement as a base as at best a 'meh' idea and at worst a bad idea. Not every prof teaches the same cases, in the same order, or the same parts of cases, or with the same emphasis. Supplements can help give you perspective, but starting from them can lead you off the path, especially before you have experience with law school classes and exams.

User avatar
sublime
Posts: 15395
Joined: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:21 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby sublime » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:59 pm

..

User avatar
AlanShore
Posts: 1505
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:21 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby AlanShore » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:03 pm

so i took a short practice midterm and just saw the model answer and i didnt do very well. i didnt do horribly but i missed a couple things. it was a combination of not understanding one point of the law quite right (it seems most people didnt understand that point because our professor wasnt super clear) and just not writing it the way the professor wants so I'll have to practice writing it the way she likes it.

Do people find that as they take practice exams they understand the BLL better (how to apply it better etc)? also, my performance on this doesnt mean im going to do badly right.... :oops:

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:07 pm

You'll be fine. The first step towards being kinda good at something is sucking at something! And practicing will make you better.

Fun Soothing TheSeaLocust Anecdote:

I took a practice exam as a 1L and asked a professor to look it over. The professor met with me, and the first words I heard from the prof were: "TheSeaLocust, I looked over what you wrote for this problem and I am very concerned." This was in early December.

User avatar
AlanShore
Posts: 1505
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:21 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby AlanShore » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:10 pm

thesealocust wrote:You'll be fine. The first step towards being kinda good at something is sucking at something! And practicing will make you better.

Fun Soothing TheSeaLocust Anecdote:

I took a practice exam as a 1L and asked a professor to look it over. The professor met with me, and the first words I heard from the prof were: "TheSeaLocust, I looked over what you wrote for this problem and I am very concerned." This was in early December.

ha thanks, sealocust. i take it that you did just fine that semester?

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:18 pm

I'd tell you how my next conversation with that prof went, after exams, but I am far too modest to recount such things on a public forum.

User avatar
AlanShore
Posts: 1505
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:21 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby AlanShore » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:38 pm

thesealocust wrote:I'd tell you how my next conversation with that prof went, after exams, but I am far too modest to recount such things on a public forum.

:D

User avatar
stillwater
Posts: 3811
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby stillwater » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:39 pm

AlanShore wrote:
thesealocust wrote:I'd tell you how my next conversation with that prof went, after exams, but I am far too modest to recount such things on a public forum.

:D


He left law school after first semester to be SCOTUS clerk

User avatar
Easy-E
Posts: 5685
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:46 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby Easy-E » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:08 am

-Small section party tonight
-LRW needs to be started ASAP, can't find handout
-Outlines to be started/finished, won't be able to do property practice exam
-"Need" to go into Manhattan to pick up tickets to game Sunday
-Put the wrong liquid in dishwasher, tried to clean it out, ran it and of course apartment full of foam.





Image


I stressing hard.

User avatar
AlanShore
Posts: 1505
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:21 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby AlanShore » Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:53 pm

emarxnj wrote:-Small section party tonight
-LRW needs to be started ASAP, can't find handout
-Outlines to be started/finished, won't be able to do property practice exam
-"Need" to go into Manhattan to pick up tickets to game Sunday
-Put the wrong liquid in dishwasher, tried to clean it out, ran it and of course apartment full of foam.





Image


I stressing hard.

HUGGGG

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:10 pm

Here is a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head to help you relax:

--ImageRemoved--

User avatar
North
Posts: 4038
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:09 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby North » Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:13 pm

:lol:

User avatar
Easy-E
Posts: 5685
Joined: Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:46 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby Easy-E » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:26 pm

Much appreciated, if small animals can wear pancakes as headgear all is right in the world I suppose. I also lost my debit card today, so it just wasn't in the cards for me today I guess. I'm gonna have a "glass" of bourbon and watch the game. And by glass I mean tupperware.

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:30 pm

Good. Feelings can't swim in bourbon.

As you were, soldier.

arklaw13
Posts: 1703
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:36 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby arklaw13 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:16 am

Word limit for open memo was 3,000. Turned mine it at 3,300. Professor didn't seem like she cared that much about the word count, because it's a department-wide thing, but it's still there. Am I fucked? I think a lot of people went over because they got the impression that she wouldn't care.

User avatar
JazzOne
Posts: 2938
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:04 am

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby JazzOne » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:12 pm

Dylanlj13 wrote:Word limit for open memo was 3,000. Turned mine it at 3,300. Professor didn't seem like she cared that much about the word count, because it's a department-wide thing, but it's still there. Am I fucked? I think a lot of people went over because they got the impression that she wouldn't care.

P/F? I think you're good.

Graded LRW? Why the hell would you do that?

User avatar
North
Posts: 4038
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:09 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby North » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:45 pm

So, lately our profs have been giving out really on point advice for exam writing/taking -- what to do, what not to do, etc. Pretty much all the stuff TLS, TSL, and GTM have taught me, they've said to all of us at one point or another and especially in these last few weeks. Do people just not listen to this kind of advice? Or does this mean that whatever advantage there was to being on the right side of the information gap regarding law exams is gone now? I am worried. I was so ready to apply law to fact. But I don't think I can do it better than the geniuses in my section now that they know that's what they're supposed to be doing.

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:11 pm

People panic, fail to practice, and fail to internalize. The 1L grade-curve works so well partially because for many people, the first set of exams happens long before they have climbed the learning-curve of the skill of exam taking.

User avatar
brotherdarkness
Posts: 3254
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:11 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby brotherdarkness » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:28 pm

.
Last edited by brotherdarkness on Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
North
Posts: 4038
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:09 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby North » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:47 pm

You guys are the best.

shock259
Posts: 1737
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 am

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby shock259 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:55 am

North wrote:So, lately our profs have been giving out really on point advice for exam writing/taking -- what to do, what not to do, etc. Pretty much all the stuff TLS, TSL, and GTM have taught me, they've said to all of us at one point or another and especially in these last few weeks. Do people just not listen to this kind of advice? Or does this mean that whatever advantage there was to being on the right side of the information gap regarding law exams is gone now? I am worried. I was so ready to apply law to fact. But I don't think I can do it better than the geniuses in my section now that they know that's what they're supposed to be doing.


I actually thought the same thing when I was at your stage in 1L. Turns out, no one really took in a lot of the info, even if it was clearly presented. Everyone gets all kind of conflicting information about law school, exams, etc. It can very easily get lost in the noise.

You got it. Keep doing you.

User avatar
espressocream
Posts: 430
Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:51 am

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby espressocream » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:56 pm

Panicking about this memo due next week. Still don't know what I'm doing.

User avatar
thesealocust
Posts: 8441
Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:50 pm

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby thesealocust » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:13 pm

espressocream wrote:Panicking about this memo due next week. Still don't know what I'm doing.


Shhhh.

There there.

User avatar
MarkinKansasCity
Posts: 10949
Joined: Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:18 am

Re: TheSeaLocust's 1L Anxiety Meditation Retreat & Spa

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:17 pm

thesealocust wrote:
espressocream wrote:Panicking about this memo due next week. Still don't know what I'm doing.


Shhhh.

There there.



thesealocust wrote:Shhh. There there.

Show me on this doll where 1L touched you.




Return to “Forum for Law School Students”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot] and 4 guests