Chances of curve killing Forum
- StephenMU19
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Chances of curve killing
Do all law schools have an idiot who announces TLS secrets on the class facebook page. I swear to god I'm going to batter this guy who is already assembling exam prep groups, which I introduced to him at a moment of weakness, for the entire class to participate in. Small entering class of 129.
Advantage to me for this assembling of the masses or no?
Advantage to me for this assembling of the masses or no?
- Nova
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Doing what everyone else is doing = median pwnd
- splitsplat
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dude, what are you talking about?
- StephenMU19
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Figured as much.
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Do you really think something a dude posts on a Facebook group is gonna kill the curve? What the hell kind of silver bullet do you think you have?
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- Icculus
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Re: Chances of curve killing
OP you do realize that most people meet with groups for exam prep, right?splitsplat wrote:dude, what are you talking about?
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Going to Nebraska?Mal Reynolds wrote:Do you really think something a dude posts on a Facebook group is gonna kill the curve? What the hell kind of silver bullet do you think you have?
- Nova
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OUTTED AS STEPHEN FROM NEBRASKA
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God, I pray I was not like this as a 1L...and then I remember I was.
Bro, it does not matter. The curve is the curve is the curve. Aint shit you can do to try and manipulate it in anyway.
Bro, it does not matter. The curve is the curve is the curve. Aint shit you can do to try and manipulate it in anyway.
- Nova
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Yeah Stephen, don't worry about what is not in your control. Just do you.
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Yes. Work as hard you can and hope you come out on top. That's all you can do.Nova wrote:Yeah Stephen, don't worry about what is not in your control. Just do you.
- StephenMU19
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Ousted for sure. Ya, Nebraska.
Just trying to kill it like us all without being a douche.
T2 is pressure for obvious reasons.
Just trying to kill it like us all without being a douche.
T2 is pressure for obvious reasons.
- 941law
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I'm with the OP. First semester I noticed the vast majority of my classmates did not have supp's and were not focused on BLL, just the cases. I always cringed when I heard students help these students.
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- bsktbll28082
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My school is hosting continuing orientation sessions. They've started to tell students not to do 8 page briefs. I'm in the corner thinking to myself, 'No, let them continue to waste time briefing. Don't tell them that.'
I'm hoping they disregard the advice and don't mess with our curve
I'm hoping they disregard the advice and don't mess with our curve
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I feel your pain. During my 1L Fall one of our professors kept telling everyone in the class how to do test prep. Thank goodness that my classmates stopped listening to his advice after the first semester.
- bsktbll28082
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My torts professor is already telling people to start outlining. My classmates are talking to 2Ls about how long outlines should be. Most of them are saying over 100 pages, but slim it down to 60
Crazy people. I hope they listen to that.
Crazy people. I hope they listen to that.
- dr123
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TLS "secrets"? WAT?
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1Ls ITT need to get serious. No, you are not a special snowflake w/your studying strats. Everyone at your school, even at most TTTs, will use E&Es, outline, etc. etc. Focus on prac exams and whatnot, and DO NOT have some false impression that everyone will just bring in case briefs and a 200 page outline and struggle through the final.
More directly addressing the OP:
You have about a 50% chance of being above median; about a 25% chances of being top quartile. Sure there may be slackers or people who have the flu on an exam (this could be you) and fuck it up, but do not account that into your planning.
More directly addressing the OP:
You have about a 50% chance of being above median; about a 25% chances of being top quartile. Sure there may be slackers or people who have the flu on an exam (this could be you) and fuck it up, but do not account that into your planning.
- StephenMU19
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Ya. Do all schools break law school sections up into ability? Obviously they can't really know, but it is so apparent that my section has all of the "high LSAT scores" and the other section has all of the lower scores. I really didn't believe this until I asked my legal writing teacher and she said, "Ya, schools do this".Gorki wrote:1Ls ITT need to get serious. No, you are not a special snowflake w/your studying strats. Everyone at your school, even at most TTTs, will use E&Es, outline, etc. etc. Focus on prac exams and whatnot, and DO NOT have some false impression that everyone will just bring in case briefs and a 200 page outline and struggle through the final.
More directly addressing the OP:
You have about a 50% chance of being above median; about a 25% chances of being top quartile. Sure there may be slackers or people who have the flu on an exam (this could be you) and fuck it up, but do not account that into your planning.
Does this mean that an A quality paper is diminished to a B because of the particularly section you are in, or do most professors compare tests and then change things up after everything is scored?
- shifty_eyed
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TTTTs section stack (put all scholarship recipients into same section so based on the curve alone, a good chunk of recipients will lose their scholarships).StephenMU19 wrote:Ya. Do all schools break law school sections up into ability? Obviously they can't really know, but it is so apparent that my section has all of the "high LSAT scores" and the other section has all of the lower scores. I really didn't believe this until I asked my legal writing teacher and she said, "Ya, schools do this".Gorki wrote:1Ls ITT need to get serious. No, you are not a special snowflake w/your studying strats. Everyone at your school, even at most TTTs, will use E&Es, outline, etc. etc. Focus on prac exams and whatnot, and DO NOT have some false impression that everyone will just bring in case briefs and a 200 page outline and struggle through the final.
More directly addressing the OP:
You have about a 50% chance of being above median; about a 25% chances of being top quartile. Sure there may be slackers or people who have the flu on an exam (this could be you) and fuck it up, but do not account that into your planning.
Does this mean that an A quality paper is diminished to a B because of the particularly section you are in, or do most professors compare tests and then change things up after everything is scored?
- thesealocust
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That's so neurotic it's adorable. One of my proudest law school achievements was my complete crim law outline weighing in at 9 pages.bsktbll28082 wrote:My classmates are talking to 2Ls about how long outlines should be. Most of them are saying over 100 pages, but slim it down to 60
I have always doubted this and never seen good evidence (or even anecdotes) to back it up. I think it's more true that shitty schools give out a lot of scholarships with unreasonable stipulations, so each section sees people with them and the whispering makes people think they're in a/the "stacked" section.shifty_eyed wrote:TTTTs section stack (put all scholarship recipients into same section so based on the curve alone, a good chunk of recipients will lose their scholarships).
Still a bad situation, but incrementally less nefarious.
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- 941law
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Back what up exactly? You'll have 120 kids sitting in Torts 1 and some are on scholly, some will get medium, and the rest will be out the door.thesealocust wrote:
I have always doubted this and never seen good evidence (or even anecdotes) to back it up. I think it's more true that shitty schools give out a lot of scholarships with unreasonable stipulations, so each section sees people with them and the whispering makes people think they're in a/the "stacked" section.
Still a bad situation, but incrementally less nefarious.
- Joe Quincy
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I know someone who went to Cooley and EVERY single person in his section was on a scholly with like 1/3 stips. His friends section had not a single person with a scholly. They openly talked about it but didn't see it as a bad thing.thesealocust wrote:
I have always doubted this and never seen good evidence (or even anecdotes) to back it up. I think it's more true that shitty schools give out a lot of scholarships with unreasonable stipulations, so each section sees people with them and the whispering makes people think they're in a/the "stacked" section.
Still a bad situation, but incrementally less nefarious.
- Dogg
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obvious section stackingJoe Quincy wrote:I know someone who went to Cooley and EVERY single person in his section was on a scholly with like 1/3 stips. His friends section had not a single person with a scholly. They openly talked about it but didn't see it as a bad thing.thesealocust wrote:
I have always doubted this and never seen good evidence (or even anecdotes) to back it up. I think it's more true that shitty schools give out a lot of scholarships with unreasonable stipulations, so each section sees people with them and the whispering makes people think they're in a/the "stacked" section.
Still a bad situation, but incrementally less nefarious.
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Schools give out scholarships for very small differences in student quality. Putting all your 165s into a section, leaving the 163s by themselves won't really result in that many more people losing their scholarships. 1-2 pts on teh LSAT is the difference between fullride and nothing. Yet, in terms of student quality, it's in the margin of error.thesealocust wrote:That's so neurotic it's adorable. One of my proudest law school achievements was my complete crim law outline weighing in at 9 pages.bsktbll28082 wrote:My classmates are talking to 2Ls about how long outlines should be. Most of them are saying over 100 pages, but slim it down to 60
I have always doubted this and never seen good evidence (or even anecdotes) to back it up. I think it's more true that shitty schools give out a lot of scholarships with unreasonable stipulations, so each section sees people with them and the whispering makes people think they're in a/the "stacked" section.shifty_eyed wrote:TTTTs section stack (put all scholarship recipients into same section so based on the curve alone, a good chunk of recipients will lose their scholarships).
Still a bad situation, but incrementally less nefarious.
I don't doubt some TTT's do it. But they don't need to do it. If you give out top 1/3rd stips, about 2/3rds won't make it.
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