lol - the high score trolling ITT...bdepeyster wrote:138/200
I hate real property MBEs.
and yes, your trolling is obvious. nobody who studied hard enough to get 138/200 is dumb enough not to know what the target score is.
lol - the high score trolling ITT...bdepeyster wrote:138/200
I hate real property MBEs.
I know, right? Wtf is up with all these dbag posts?c3pO4 wrote:lol - the high score trolling ITT...bdepeyster wrote:138/200
I hate real property MBEs.
and yes, your trolling is obvious. nobody who studied hard enough to get 138/200 is dumb enough not to know what the target score is.
MEE = Multi-state Essay Examination. Some states use it, some don't, while other states (like the one I'm hoping to practice in if I manage to pass) uses MEE's but you are to answer them according to state law.remz wrote:What is MEE?
Also, does BarBri only off one simulated MBE? Is it possible for us to take more than one so we have more practice?
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Law studentsDwightSchruteFarms wrote:What a boner. Who writes shit like this?shepdawg wrote:I finally got my breakdown of the simulated mbe back yesterday. It was helpful to see that although I was in 97th percentile overall, I can improve drastically on impeachment and future estates.
Except that it's not clear that this is true. In the introductory lecture, Professor Castro said, "The examination that you have just taken is much more difficult than the Multistate in the sense that the overwhelming majority of you will score much higher on the Multistate than you did on this practice test." Well, duh. Of course most of us will do better after another month of studying. That doesn't mean anything one way or the other about the difficulty of this exam relative to the actual MBE. It might be. I sincerely hope it is. But I think a lot of the perceived change in difficulty will come from better mastery of the material.nevdash wrote:BarBri wrote:Because this exam is harder than the actual MBE, don’t worry if your score here is significantly lower than the average on the actual exam.
I completely agree with this and have said this elsewhere on the BarBri threads that this is my biggest gripe with BarBri. If you want to test me on material I'm not really comfortable with yet, fine. If you want to make that exam harder than what I will see fine as well. If you believe that providing me with an opportunity to fail will motivate me to work harder than I already am, but in reality probably freak me out more than I am, I'm grudgingly down with that. But give me something (a grading rubric, etc.) that correlates to what this all comes out to on an actual MBE. It probably would help most of us de-stress a bit when we are entering 3-4 weeks of solid memorization/material absorption hell.bgdddymtty wrote:Except that it's not clear that this is true. In the introductory lecture, Professor Castro said, "The examination that you have just taken is much more difficult than the Multistate in the sense that the overwhelming majority of you will score much higher on the Multistate than you did on this practice test." Well, duh. Of course most of us will do better after another month of studying. That doesn't mean anything one way or the other about the difficulty of this exam relative to the actual MBE. It might be. I sincerely hope it is. But I think a lot of the perceived change in difficulty will come from better mastery of the material.nevdash wrote:BarBri wrote:Because this exam is harder than the actual MBE, don’t worry if your score here is significantly lower than the average on the actual exam.
But that would defeat Barbri's entire purpose.BlameTrain wrote:I completely agree with this and have said this elsewhere on the BarBri threads that this is my biggest gripe with BarBri. If you want to test me on material I'm not really comfortable with yet, fine. If you want to make that exam harder than what I will see fine as well. If you believe that providing me with an opportunity to fail will motivate me to work harder than I already am, but in reality probably freak me out more than I am, I'm grudgingly down with that. But give me something (a grading rubric, etc.) that correlates to what this all comes out to on an actual MBE. It probably would help most of us de-stress a bit when we are entering 3-4 weeks of solid memorization/material absorption hell.bgdddymtty wrote:Except that it's not clear that this is true. In the introductory lecture, Professor Castro said, "The examination that you have just taken is much more difficult than the Multistate in the sense that the overwhelming majority of you will score much higher on the Multistate than you did on this practice test." Well, duh. Of course most of us will do better after another month of studying. That doesn't mean anything one way or the other about the difficulty of this exam relative to the actual MBE. It might be. I sincerely hope it is. But I think a lot of the perceived change in difficulty will come from better mastery of the material.nevdash wrote:BarBri wrote:Because this exam is harder than the actual MBE, don’t worry if your score here is significantly lower than the average on the actual exam.
similar boat, but i took the sim a few weeks ago. already have forgotten 20% of what I knew then and would probably get the same score today, not any better, and maybe worse.gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
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Keep studying. I had a similar score, and stopped studying MBE. The result was a major drop in my score on the half-day exam this weekend.gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
I'm also online (Texas) and my simulated MBE was 6/29. The website and the flyer that came with the Scantron indicate that there are three grading days for the exam (6/25, 7/2, and 7/9), which seems to indicate that students are each assigned to one of the three Saturdays preceding those days.remz wrote:Are you at an actual LIVE lecture location because we haven't taken a simulated MBE exam yet at the taped locations (we take it tomorrow)? Also, I thought there are only 190 questions on BarBri's simualated MBE, rather than 200, am I incorrect?
Thanks for the helpful info!!bgdddymtty wrote:I'm also online (Texas) and my simulated MBE was 6/29. The website and the flyer that came with the Scantron indicate that there are three grading days for the exam (6/25, 7/2, and 7/9), which seems to indicate that students are each assigned to one of the three Saturdays preceding those days.remz wrote:Are you at an actual LIVE lecture location because we haven't taken a simulated MBE exam yet at the taped locations (we take it tomorrow)? Also, I thought there are only 190 questions on BarBri's simualated MBE, rather than 200, am I incorrect?
As for the exam, it has 200 questions just like the real MBE. Unlike the real MBE, though, all 200 of the questions are scored instead of just 190. If you want to get an idea of what your scaled score might be at this point, you can take your percentage on the simulated MBE, multiply it by 190, and apply that raw score to a recent MBE scale such as this one.
Yes. They give you your raw score and percentile by subject, and maybe more info than that (I haven't gotten mine back yet). The back of your simulated MBE book has all the answers and their corresponding subjects, though, so it's not like you have to wait for Barbri. As long as you mark your answers in the book as you go, you can get your score right after the exam.remz wrote:Thanks for the helpful info!!bgdddymtty wrote:I'm also online (Texas) and my simulated MBE was 6/29. The website and the flyer that came with the Scantron indicate that there are three grading days for the exam (6/25, 7/2, and 7/9), which seems to indicate that students are each assigned to one of the three Saturdays preceding those days.remz wrote:Are you at an actual LIVE lecture location because we haven't taken a simulated MBE exam yet at the taped locations (we take it tomorrow)? Also, I thought there are only 190 questions on BarBri's simualated MBE, rather than 200, am I incorrect?
As for the exam, it has 200 questions just like the real MBE. Unlike the real MBE, though, all 200 of the questions are scored instead of just 190. If you want to get an idea of what your scaled score might be at this point, you can take your percentage on the simulated MBE, multiply it by 190, and apply that raw score to a recent MBE scale such as this one.
When you get your score back does BarBri break it down by subject online? Like does BarBri tell you how many Property, Crim, Torts, etc. questions you got right and wrong?
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Yeah, same. 167/200 --> 75/100 two weeks later. Those questions felt brutal when the stuff wasn't fresh.shepdawg wrote:Keep studying. I had a similar score, and stopped studying MBE. The result was a major drop in my score on the half-day exam this weekend.gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
remz wrote:gonezo77 wrote:152/200
Not sure how much effort I should put in over the next three weeks (said in the non-douchiest way possible).
152 is your raw score or scaled score?
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gonezo77 wrote:
152 was my raw score. I felt good about it until I heard about a 171 in our Barbri class.
got a 123 (3 weeks ago) and WAS stoked. now regularly hitting 75-85% on any quiz. let's try to get an A guys!tfer2222 wrote:gonezo77 wrote:
152 was my raw score. I felt good about it until I heard about a 171 in our Barbri class.
no. comparing to the "best" score is so pointless. you should feel good about it.
PSA: goal is to pass. you're way above passing with that score. i got a 145 but i would have been completely stoked with a 120 or even a 112 which is average.
+Eleventy billiontfer2222 wrote:gonezo77 wrote:
152 was my raw score. I felt good about it until I heard about a 171 in our Barbri class.
no. comparing to the "best" score is so pointless. you should feel good about it.
PSA: goal is to pass. you're way above passing with that score. i got a 145 but i would have been completely stoked with a 120 or even a 112 which is average.
Where did you get the information on the percentiles for the Texas Essays? I have been trying to find that info and couldn't locate it anywherebgdddymtty wrote:+Eleventy billiontfer2222 wrote:gonezo77 wrote:
152 was my raw score. I felt good about it until I heard about a 171 in our Barbri class.
no. comparing to the "best" score is so pointless. you should feel good about it.
PSA: goal is to pass. you're way above passing with that score. i got a 145 but i would have been completely stoked with a 120 or even a 112 which is average.
To put this all in perspective, here's what you need to pass with that sort of an MBE score. These numbers are for Texas and use the July 2011 scale but should good enough to illustrate the general principle.
Passing Score: 675
MBE: 40%
152 simulated MBE = 76% = 144 raw MBE = 157.9 scaled MBE = 315.8 weighted score
MPT/Procedure & Evidence Exam: 20%
29th percentile performance = 135 scaled score = 135 weighted score
(You should obviously expect to do better than this, but this is kind of a "worst reasonable case" scenario.)
Essay Exam: 40%
675 - 315.8 - 135 = 224.2 weighted score = 112.1 scaled score
This score is somewhere between the 2nd and 4th percentiles
You're in a great spot. Don't burn out or freak out. Even if you get no better between the simulated MBE and the real thing, as long as you don't regress you're pretty much in "auto-pass" territory.
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