KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

(Study Tips, Dealing With Stress, Maintaining a Social Life, Financial Aid, Internships, Bar Exam, Careers in Law . . . )
ARACECAR
Posts: 5
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:26 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby ARACECAR » Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:19 pm

northwood wrote: possible express warranty??


Statement was not made before he signed up for barprep- so it cannot have been said to have been part of the bargain. Also debatable whether UCC would apply to a barprep course- but it would appear that the gravaman of harm arose from the service aspect of the contract not the goods portion. :x

Just had a MCQ that I think was ridiculous. Owner hires landscaper to burn a tree stump on Owner's property. Landscaper burns the stump on a windy day which causes the smoke to enter an open window on neighbor's property and cause damage. The best defense for Owner? That smoke entering his neighbor's house was unforeseeable. Really? It's not foreseeable that neighbors would have their windows open? It's not foreseeable that creating smoke on a windy day could cause that smoke to be blown past Owner's property? I know it depends in part on what the other answers were- but this is ridiculous.

sidhesadie
Posts: 454
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:54 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby sidhesadie » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:14 pm

bazinga! wrote:
objctnyrhnr wrote:are you guys still getting essays back?


I got an email sunday saying that friday will be the last day to submit essays which kicked me into gear. I've submitted 12 essays since then and nada. I can only assume that everyone else is doing the same and there is a serious backlog, but it would be extremely helpful to have feedback in the next couple of days while I still have time to work on stuff.

On that note, did anyone watch the MEE final video? I got approximately 2 minutes into it where she recited a crap-ton of specific rules that I didn't even come close to having and felt in the interest of my mental health I should stop. I would love to know if someone soldiered through the entire thing and could give an opinion on it's usefulness.


I have a batch of essays (about 6) I submitted on the 12th that I still don't have back. I'm not holding my breath.

bdubs
Posts: 3729
Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:23 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby bdubs » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:19 pm

Ouch. Just did additional MBE and fell back down to the same % range as I had on my midterm and final exams. After bumping up my Qbank averages in the last week I was hoping to do better. Really hope that the extra 10 point scaling adjustment on this one is correct.

shock259
Posts: 1737
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby shock259 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:41 pm

Guys, RYAN RENTMEESTER HIMSELF just responded to my question. He said to add +20 to your score for the additional MBE. But also said that there was less data on this test because less students take it, so it is not as reliable as the others.

User avatar
bazinga!
Posts: 102
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:14 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby bazinga! » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:16 pm

Does anyone remember the trick for telling if it's a race-notice or pure race jurisdiction? Somethung like if it says value without notice then X, but if it says something else than Y. It was on the video but I'm hoping someone knows here before I try to find it there.

shock259
Posts: 1737
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby shock259 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:20 pm

If it includes first anywhere near the end, it's race-notice. Like, records first or first records. I don't even read the description of the recording statute any more: just look to the last few words and see if I see first in there. If not, notice. If first is there, race-notice.

sidhesadie
Posts: 454
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:54 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby sidhesadie » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:21 pm

bazinga! wrote:Does anyone remember the trick for telling if it's a race-notice or pure race jurisdiction? Somethung like if it says value without notice then X, but if it says something else than Y. It was on the video but I'm hoping someone knows here before I try to find it there.


Pure race is whoever records first wins.

race notice is when the statute says something like, not valid against a purchaser for value who takes without notice, and records first.

notice will say something like not valid against a purchaser for value who takes without notice

User avatar
bazinga!
Posts: 102
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:14 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby bazinga! » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:33 pm

sidhesadie wrote:
Pure race is whoever records first wins.

race notice is when the statute says something like, not valid against a purchaser for value who takes without notice, and records first.

notice will say something like not valid against a purchaser for value who takes without notice
shock259 wrote:If it includes first anywhere near the end, it's race-notice. Like, records first or first records. I don't even read the description of the recording statute any more: just look to the last few words and see if I see first in there. If not, notice. If first is there, race-notice.


Brilliant! Thank you both!!

User avatar
JenDarby
Posts: 13321
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:02 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby JenDarby » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:08 pm

Well my score went slightly down on the aditional simulated MBE, but I also took two naps and was wildly distracted and bored the entire time lol.

I think I need to step back from MBE and focus on essays since at this point my MBE scores are pretty stable but my attention span is rapidly declining.

sandcastle45
Posts: 48
Joined: Sat May 03, 2014 2:38 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby sandcastle45 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 8:17 pm

Just finished the additional practice MBE.

(Without adding points)
103 on the midterm
113 on the final
127 on the additional.

If I add the 20-25 points to the additional, that puts me at like 145-150/200. Should I feel okay about Wednesday? Cuz I do not feel so OK about the essays. :lol:

User avatar
TTRansfer
Posts: 3796
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:08 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby TTRansfer » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:36 pm

I think you add 15 points (same as with the final). I know they changed the final to 15 points.

Kaplan seems to be harder than the real questions, so keep at it and you should be fine.

User avatar
JenDarby
Posts: 13321
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:02 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby JenDarby » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:59 pm

Reviewing these 200 question MBE tests might be actually be worse than taking them.

User avatar
soccerfreak
Posts: 407
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:57 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby soccerfreak » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:02 pm

sandcastle45 wrote:Just finished the additional practice MBE.

(Without adding points)
103 on the midterm
113 on the final
127 on the additional.

If I add the 20-25 points to the additional, that puts me at like 145-150/200. Should I feel okay about Wednesday? Cuz I do not feel so OK about the essays. :lol:

Actually according to the math and depending on jurisdiction, if you get a 150 on the MBE MC, then you can be below 1st percentile on written portion and pass.

User avatar
Grenadine
Posts: 20
Joined: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:08 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby Grenadine » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:28 pm

soccerfreak wrote:
sandcastle45 wrote:Just finished the additional practice MBE.

(Without adding points)
103 on the midterm
113 on the final
127 on the additional.

If I add the 20-25 points to the additional, that puts me at like 145-150/200. Should I feel okay about Wednesday? Cuz I do not feel so OK about the essays. :lol:

Actually according to the math and depending on jurisdiction, if you get a 150 on the MBE MC, then you can be below 1st percentile on written portion and pass.


This is the single most comforting thing I have heard on the subject of the bar exam. I can recreate my notes from memory by this point but can't actually correctly apply them on an essay to save my life. Bottom 1%, here I come~

Pokemon
Posts: 1861
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:58 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby Pokemon » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:49 pm

soccerfreak wrote:
sandcastle45 wrote:Just finished the additional practice MBE.

(Without adding points)
103 on the midterm
113 on the final
127 on the additional.

If I add the 20-25 points to the additional, that puts me at like 145-150/200. Should I feel okay about Wednesday? Cuz I do not feel so OK about the essays. :lol:

Actually according to the math and depending on jurisdiction, if you get a 150 on the MBE MC, then you can be below 1st percentile on written portion and pass.



True for IL, not for NY.

User avatar
JenDarby
Posts: 13321
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:02 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby JenDarby » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:35 pm

^ NY a 165 should put you in "as long as you kind of know English and some law words" pass range.

User avatar
LeDique
Posts: 12755
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:10 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby LeDique » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:38 pm

I wish I was in a 260 UBE state. I wouldn't even be motivated to study knowing that getting a 150 meant I would only have to know English

shock259
Posts: 1737
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby shock259 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:52 pm

JenDarby wrote:^ NY a 165 should put you in "as long as you kind of know English and some law words" pass range.


Yeah. 165 is really high, though.

I wish the NY bar people released the bad essays. I would love to know just how poorly you have to do to receive a 3.0/10 or a 4.0/10. I don't really trust Kaplan's grading.

User avatar
JenDarby
Posts: 13321
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:02 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby JenDarby » Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:58 pm

shock259 wrote:
JenDarby wrote:^ NY a 165 should put you in "as long as you kind of know English and some law words" pass range.


Yeah. 165 is really high, though.

I wish the NY bar people released the bad essays. I would love to know just how poorly you have to do to receive a 3.0/10 or a 4.0/10. I don't really trust Kaplan's grading.

165 is high, but from your posting you seem to surpass kind of knowing English. We should all be fine.

shock259
Posts: 1737
Joined: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:30 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby shock259 » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:15 am

:lol: :lol:

I am also sure we will be fine.

Pokemon
Posts: 1861
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:58 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby Pokemon » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:45 am

I got a 137 on my additional. Finally some improvement.

semplice
Posts: 28
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:59 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby semplice » Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:21 am

shock259 wrote:I wish the NY bar people released the bad essays. I would love to know just how poorly you have to do to receive a 3.0/10 or a 4.0/10. I don't really trust Kaplan's grading.


Exactly! Same here. If it's a minimum competency test, show me minimum competency.

barprepbiddy
Posts: 9
Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby barprepbiddy » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:52 am

Has anyone else used adaptibar?

I'm beginning to feel nervous about the Kaplan questions being representative of real exam questions. I started doing adaptibar questions a couple of weeks ago, and my strengths and weaknesses in adaptibar are pretty opposite of what they are in Kaplan. For example, my contracts average in adaptibar is barely 50%, and my contracts average on Kaplan questions is about 68%. That's a litte scary since the adaptibar questions are real NCBE questions and supposedly "easier." Maybe I'm just overthinking them?

User avatar
bazinga!
Posts: 102
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:14 pm

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby bazinga! » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:01 am

129 midterm
133 final
125 additional
....okay? Not sure other than I had a hard time forcing myself to pay attention on the additional. Looks like I'll scoot on back to MEE study where at least I can lie and tell myself I'm improving.

User avatar
JenDarby
Posts: 13321
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:02 am

Re: KAPLAN BAR REVIEW hangout

Postby JenDarby » Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:07 am

bazinga! wrote:129 midterm
133 final
125 additional
....okay? Not sure other than I had a hard time forcing myself to pay attention on the additional. Looks like I'll scoot on back to MEE study where at least I can lie and tell myself I'm improving.

I think you're good, you're above all the averages.

My scores were in a similar range and I've realized I'm getting major MBE burn out. I'm switching to essays as my main focus for the next few days. Maybe 15 MBE questions just to keep fresh.




Return to “Forum for Law School Students”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: OtterLaw and 6 guests