ph14 wrote: portaprokoss wrote:
ph14 wrote:In any event, what you posted in the above quoted post is not what you were claiming further up, i.e., that grades basically don't matter.
My claim is this: mixed As & Bs + networking > Straight As + LR + no networking
I never said grades don't matter
That's still a bad claim, at least regards OCI.
I'll go a step further and say it's a bad claim without qualification. You're either disingenuous or a fool if you're trying to argue that "networking" is anywhere near as important as grades or LR for getting hired into BigLaw, especially at the elite firms. Knowing some random or associate or partner might get you in the door for a screener or maybe even a callback, but it's certainly not going to exempt you from the hiring committee process in place at basically any firm of a given size. Your grades and credentials and your evaluations from your interviews are going to decide your fate then.
portaprokoss wrote:Successful networking results in people who are inside the firm pulling for you before OCI even begins. A good 1L job should give you opportunities to meet lawyers at top firms. It's simply false that being one of the faceless dozens w/ top-10% from a T-14, or one of the faceless dozens on a journal, is more important than having lawyers on the inside at a firm actively championing your hire before OCI has even begun.
I guess my 1L SA wasn't a "good" one by these standards and so I've got to ask what kind of 1L summer experience leads to connections with attorneys at multiple
top firms who are all willing to go to bat for you in a serious way? Furthermore, what kind of pull do you imagine a random associate or even a random partner has in hiring decisions unless he or she happens to sit on the recruiting / hiring committee?
I can see maybe a mentor or something going to bat for you like this and succeeding. But an acquaintance? A networking contact? It just seems so implausible that anyone could parlay more than a few of these relationships into an interview / callback that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.
Meanwhile, top 10% and LR, absent a malignant personality disorder, is beating firms off with a stick.