nealric wrote:For the love of GD don't blow money on a doorman as a first year. Should be able to get a nice 1.5 bedroom in a prospect heights brownstone for less than 2500. Only thig a doorman is really good for is accepting packages - have your packages sent to work.
Sorry, just not going to take your advice on this one. I have someone splitting the rent with me, and the convenience of having someone handle packages, etc. for me is too appealing. I know you pay a premium for it. I am willing to pay that premium.
The convenience of having someone handle your packages is worth ~$24,000 /year to you? There has to be a cheaper and more practical method of dealing with packages than paying ~$1000 / month for a doorman. Just to put this into perspective, you could buy a car (or whatever large expensive purchase) each year with the money you'd be saving by not having a doorman.
EDIT- Also, your $160k /year salary in NYC is closer to $100k /year after taxes, social security, medicare, etc. And you're going to spend ~ 25% of that on a doorman for the convenience of accepting packages? (Even if you consider joint income, it's still a pretty substantial percentage of your post-taxes joint income to have the doorman.) To me, that makes no sense whatsoever. I might do it on a $1M /year partner salary, but not on a $160k /year salary in NYC.
A doorman is not 24k/yr. The ceiling on a doorman building is much (much) higher thereby skewing those averages. I have found doorman buildings within my price range searching on streeteasy.com and other websites (which I discovered after creating this thread). I know many, many first year associates who have lived in (without financial distress) a building with a doorman (and no roommate).
Its not simply packages: a doorman improves my feeling of security, my ability to get my dry cleaning handled, my ability to have visitors more conveniently, and yes, my ability to get packages. This is a worthwhile investment for me because I value those things highly. I have lived in buildings with and without doormen before and have greatly preferred having a doorman.
I assure you, I will not live in a building I can't afford. If it truly becomes the case that a doorman is prohibitively expensive, I will live in a non-doorman building.