PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby dietcoke0 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:04 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
dietcoke0 wrote:Ah yes, sorry, I didn't look at grades until after holidays. Torts got medianish (B+, it was mostly my weakest material, but I fest up after test I struggled with that particular test) Prop and Civ Pro got A-, roughly top 25%. I didn't do hard calculations. Got screwed by legal writing, which is worth 2 credits, and got a B. Dragged GPA down to top third. Overall, happy, considering I knew I did bad in torts.


Yeah but you were predicting being #1 in torts. more importantly, this illustrates a larger concept. there's a large swath of people each predicting all sorts of outcomes on mainly bullshit. when grades come back, people who receive higher grades insist their bullshit should be considered an iron-clad theory and people who do poorly invent an alternate bullshit to explain their performance. corollary to this, people who receive higher grades are more likely to insist their grades were due to their performance and people who score lower are more likely to insist the whole thing is arbitrary (which at H, it really is, for most of the class outside a few legit superstars). we know for a fact some professors don't even bother to read the shit.

in any case, the moral of the story is to mostly shut up and wait for your grades.


I said I could be competing for a top spot, I never said I was going to be #1. And that was before I took the test. My prediction was because on all the practice tests, I was killing it (and during class, when we discussed practice test, I had gotten all the issues he wanted) trust me, I had almost all of torts down cold. When test came, we had a lot of 402a crap and misrepresentation stuff that I didn't get a chance to practice as much, because it was the last two weeks of class, and therefore my answers were crap on that. I still did good, just not great. And I came here and told the thread I didn't do well after the test anyway.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby pastapplicant » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:07 pm

what a crapshoot

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Tiago Splitter » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Bronck wrote:Ummmm, I JUST GOT AN A IN CIV PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boo yah! Congrats dude!

I'd love to see your prof's reaction :lol:

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby shumpshump » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:07 pm

Congrats Bronck!!!!!!!!! Must feel amazing :)

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:08 pm

uvabro wrote:this is untrue. if i get strong grades, i will be the first to admit my exams were pure bullshit. i've reread them both sober and unsober and they are bullshit. in my limited experience the people who think their shit is gospel tend to not do as well. i'd imagine it's linked to counterargument making ability.


There are always exceptions.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby minnbills » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:09 pm

Okay so I was looking at the post graduation class rank figures (which have more grade inflation) and psyched myself out. For 1L I'm sitting "ok." Met my goal. Feeling much better.

And congrats on DAT A IN CIV PRO BRO!!

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Nova » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:10 pm

minnbills wrote:
Nova wrote:OK, grades are supposed to be out "mid morning" :shock:

ISNT THAT NOW?!

REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH


Got mine, meh. Fuck.


WHAT?? :shock:

Im still waiting

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby GSCgold » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:13 pm

Grades in for me: A Torts, B Property, B+ Civ Pro, A Legal Writing. Puts me right at a 3.5. School curves to a B and based on last year's 1L class top 25% was above a 3.38 so I can probably say I'm above that although our curve is coming out later this week.

Pretty happy with grades, but want to try and do better this semester.

Two questions: Do employers look mostly at class rank or do grades in specific 1L classes "matter" more than others (ie better to have a higher grade in Civ Pro than Property)? Also, I know it varies, but is the general trend that how you do first semester is fairly indicative of how you do the next semester?

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby minnbills » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:13 pm

Nova wrote:
minnbills wrote:
Nova wrote:OK, grades are supposed to be out "mid morning" :shock:

ISNT THAT NOW?!

REFRESH REFRESH REFRESH


Got mine, meh. Fuck.


WHAT?? :shock:

Im still waiting


Have you checked onestop?

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Bronck » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:14 pm

Tiago Splitter wrote:
Bronck wrote:Ummmm, I JUST GOT AN A IN CIV PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boo yah! Congrats dude!

I'd love to see your prof's reaction :lol:


:lol: So true

shumpshump wrote:Congrats Bronck!!!!!!!!! Must feel amazing :)


Thanks you guys!!! I can't believe it!! Just one grade to go!

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Nova » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:15 pm

minnbills wrote:Have you checked onestop?


Yes. I have been refreshing this page: https://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/viewgra ... wGrades.do

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby dietcoke0 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:15 pm

GSCgold wrote:Two questions: Do employers look mostly at class rank or do grades in specific 1L classes "matter" more than others (ie better to have a higher grade in Civ Pro than Property)? Also, I know it varies, but is the general trend that how you do first semester is fairly indicative of how you do the next semester?


Depends on firm. A firm that does products liability might see an A in torts and get excited, while a form that works with estates might see an A in property as groovy. Others just want Latin titles and high ranked schools next to your name.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby minnbills » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:21 pm

Nova wrote:
minnbills wrote:Have you checked onestop?


Yes. I have been refreshing this page: https://webapps-prd.oit.umn.edu/viewgra ... wGrades.do


Yeah that's where mine were listed

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:22 pm

dietcoke0 wrote: etc...


cool. not really trying to pick on you, just thinking out loud, really. i mean even when you "win" this shit, you haven't really won anything. there are plenty of top third students etc, striking out and bottom students scoring sweet gigs; smart lawyers being pushed out and dumb ones making partner. it's an endless series of crapshoots. good luck, brother.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Nova » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:27 pm

Torts: A
Contracts: A
Civ Pro: B-
Con Law: B-

GPA: 3.378

LAST YEAR:
Second Quartile: 3.293 – 3.612

SOOOO.....

URM just above median @ T20. FUCK YES. Got a lot to fix but FUCK YES.

Thanks TLS.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby 20130312 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:29 pm

Nova wrote:Torts: A
Contracts: A
Civ Pro: B-
Con Law: B-

GPA: 3.378

LAST YEAR:
Second Quartile: 3.293 – 3.612

SOOOO.....

URM just above median @ T20. FUCK YES. Got a lot to fix but FUCK YES.

Thanks TLS.

Once a splitter, always a splitter, eh Nova? :D CONGRATS man, must feel great.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby BullShitWithBravado » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:29 pm

Nova wrote:Torts: A
Contracts: A
Civ Pro: B-
Con Law: B-

GPA: 3.378

LAST YEAR:
Second Quartile: 3.293 – 3.612

SOOOO.....

URM just above median @ T20. FUCK YES. Got a lot to fix but FUCK YES.

Thanks TLS.


You got As in the most practical classes. Congrats!

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby minnbills » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:30 pm

Nova wrote:Torts: A
Contracts: A
Civ Pro: B-
Con Law: B-

GPA: 3.378

LAST YEAR:
Second Quartile: 3.293 – 3.612

SOOOO.....

URM just above median @ T20. FUCK YES. Got a lot to fix but FUCK YES.

Thanks TLS.


Congrats bro!!

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby uvabro » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:30 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
dietcoke0 wrote: etc...


cool. not really trying to pick on you, just thinking out loud, really. i mean even when you "win" this shit, you haven't really won anything. there are plenty of top third students etc, striking out and bottom students scoring sweet gigs; smart lawyers being pushed out and dumb ones making partner. it's an endless series of crapshoots. good luck, brother.

less so than other fields. the fact there is any tangible correlation between performance, and jobs makes law different from most. also, those dumb lawyers bring in money. that is performance related.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby smaug_ » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:31 pm

Bronck wrote:Ummmm, I JUST GOT AN A IN CIV PRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Congrats dude!

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby uvabro » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:32 pm

minnbills wrote:
Nova wrote:Torts: A
Contracts: A
Civ Pro: B-
Con Law: B-

GPA: 3.378

LAST YEAR:
Second Quartile: 3.293 – 3.612

SOOOO.....

URM just above median @ T20. FUCK YES. Got a lot to fix but FUCK YES.

Thanks TLS.


Congrats bro!!

how big is the URM boost? is it like law school admissions in that a bottom third URM can compete with top third non-URM? if so, the above/below median stuff is really kind of misleading, because the median number become a superficial cut of for above-below median.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Blessedassurance » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:33 pm

uvabro wrote: less so than other fields. the fact there is any tangible correlation between performance, and jobs makes law different from most. also, those dumb lawyers bring in money. that is performance related.


lol...just lol

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby Jsa725 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:39 pm

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby uvabro » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:40 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:
uvabro wrote: less so than other fields. the fact there is any tangible correlation between performance, and jobs makes law different from most. also, those dumb lawyers bring in money. that is performance related.


lol...just lol

if you bring a firm a 2 million dollar a year client because you happened to stumble across them at starbucks, that isn't performance related? is performance just law based? will an autistic but 100% precise brain surgeon be a top brain surgeon? how many 4.0 majors would lose out on jobs to a 2.0 with a family connection? the fact law firms pay any attention to gpa makes it different from many fields.

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Re: PANIC!! 1L Fall Grade Waiting Thread - 2012

Postby thelong » Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:43 pm

Congrats on the As coming in!

All is quiet here. Grade due date was yesterday, so I have no idea.




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