very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!

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very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!

Postby sangr » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:39 am

thanks all
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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!

Postby minnie7 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:51 am

I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.

I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.

shit is tough

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Postby eandy » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:52 am

Richard Freer is your friend. Buy the supplement. Listen to the barbri lecture.

Then, CALI lessons.

You're welcome.

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Postby bhan87 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:13 am

Get Friedenthal's Civil Procedure Hornbook (either purchase or borrow it from your law school's library).

Read: Chapter 2 (Subject-matter jurisdiction), Chapter 3 (Personal jurisdiction), Chapter 4 (Erie). Those three chapters in this particular book are excellent at synthesizing every major Supreme Court case till 2005. The fact summaries are pretty spot on and the authors do a good job of extracting the most important precedents while considering the bigger picture (i.e. the earlier cases had a lot of other holdings that just don't matter nowadays). After doing that, just proceed reading whatever cases aren't covered.

For Erie Doctrine, you can almost really just rely on Shady Grove (I assume your class is reading this because it's the Court's latest on Erie). The case is pretty long, but it summarizes the entire thought process for doing Erie analysis in terms of modern jurisprudence. It also summarizes the holdings for all the other important Erie cases. In my opinion, you could make your Erie flowchart entirely from this case most likely.

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Postby mr.hands » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:16 am

I'll second the freer advice

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Postby Jimbo_Jones » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:52 am

1. Listen to Arthur Miller's Sum and Substance on Civ Pro
2. Get a copy of Acing Civil Procedure
3. Skim the policy reasons only for the cases referenced in the above two steps

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Postby Bildungsroman » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:30 am

My advice is to catch up on civ pro. What have you been doing this semester to fall so far behind?

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Postby yuzu » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:17 pm

I'll be your Glannon when you're crammin' for your Civ Pro test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XgObo75Y0Q

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Postby nshapkar » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:55 am

I fucking hate civ pro.

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Postby I.P. Daly » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:34 pm

http://lawschoolcasebriefs.com/

44 Civ Pro outlines and tons of case briefs.

The outlines are slightly dated, but the new stuff is easy to fill in...

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Postby secretaryoftaste » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:44 pm

acing civ pro is very short and incredibly helpful. Sounds like it could be a perfect quick fix for you.

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Postby eandy » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:53 pm

secretaryoftaste wrote:acing civ pro is very short and incredibly helpful. Sounds like it could be a perfect quick fix for you.

stay far far away. it over simplifies so there are important wrinkles you'll miss. your professor will test those. avoid.

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Postby chem » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:01 pm

Be careful about venue. It changed in 2012, so any outlines/supplements you get probably wont have it

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Postby Lacepiece23 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:14 pm

minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.

I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.

shit is tough


Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.

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Postby evilxs » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:25 pm

I was exactly where you are during my 1L year. I bought Glannon's guide to civil procedure and did the entire thing over turkey break. I went from no clue to B+ in a week of studying. Not fantastic, but lifesaver indeed.

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Postby uvabro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:49 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:
minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.

I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.

shit is tough


Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.

250? we've done like 600.

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Postby Lacepiece23 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:01 pm

uvabro wrote:
Lacepiece23 wrote:
minnie7 wrote:I'm in a similar situation with my Civ Pro class to.

I WANT to re-read all 250 pages again(skim them atleast). But at the same time I need to work on my other 3 classes, outlines, memo, and practice exams.

shit is tough


Your at Cornell right? I think everyones in the same situation.

250? we've done like 600.


I feel like we might get a little less reading than other schools considering we have 4 classes and a graded lrw. However, we do have civ pro for a full year.

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Postby YYZ » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Acing Civ Pro

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!

Postby Kramer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:14 pm

Same problem as OP, but not with regard to civ pro....TORTS instead (and some property)

What can I do to most efficiently catch up, if it's even possible

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Postby thegrayman » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:58 pm

Kramer wrote:Same problem as OP, but not with regard to civ pro....TORTS instead (and some property)

What can I do to most efficiently catch up, if it's even possible


Torts is considered to be a relatively easy course, I would say of all the courses to be behind in, torts is the best by far. Spend time getting the basic down cold (DBCD -> establishing duty, showing breach, showing causation (all possible ways), showing damages. It's 100% guaranteed on your final that negligence is going to show up. Someone is going to do something stupid and someone is going to get hurt.

If your professor has old exams, review those, if they have model answers, even better. Read a model answer and try to figure out if your professor leans more towards:

1. word dump --> model answer is 15 pages long and basically is somebody's outline tossed into exam format and semi-tailored to be applicable to the fact pattern

or

2. more focused on analysis --> shorter model answer, only a few aspects of the course brought up, but more detailed and tailored response to the actual facts of the hypothetical

For example, my torts professor's exam was a word dump. All the nuances of the cases and subtle differences between jurisdictions, courts, justices, went out the window. All I wrote about were the very simple aspects of torts, but knocked out as many arguments as I could reasonably fit into the facts.

If time is short, some of your largest gains will come from understanding what your professor wants to see on the actual exam. If that information isn't available to you, I would focus on getting the basics down cold (a checklist approach is great for torts).

Now get out there and kick that test's ass

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Re: very behind on civ pro, have some decent outlines. advice!

Postby shepdawg » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:37 am

Skim the outlines a few times and then do practice tests. Skip reading the textbook and supps.




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