OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby soj » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:18 am

hibiki wrote:
Bronck wrote:I'm tempted to not do the rest of the readings (Complicity, or w/e) and just OL from Dressler for that section instead. Thoughts?


Might not be a bad idea. That said, complicity and conspiracy are like the only things with any semblance of nuance in Crim, from what I can tell.

It is (obviously) your call as to if you think it'll be worth it.

? not sure what's you mean, but there's plenty of nuance in mens rea, possession, and other areas. dressler is great for all of it, though.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Bronck » Sat Apr 20, 2013 1:50 am

I didn't realize I'd be doing Con Law for Property too. WTF, takings.

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Postby Bronck » Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:08 am

Fucking 180 pages of property to finish out the semester (5 classes). Ate up my entire day.

Hope I can finish the reading for the rest of the classes [for the rest of the semester] tomorrow, thereby letting me focus exclusively on finals prep.

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Postby BlueLotus » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:35 am

Any LEEWSers in da house? *raises glass*

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Postby SportsFan » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:40 am

soj wrote:
hibiki wrote:
Bronck wrote:I'm tempted to not do the rest of the readings (Complicity, or w/e) and just OL from Dressler for that section instead. Thoughts?


Might not be a bad idea. That said, complicity and conspiracy are like the only things with any semblance of nuance in Crim, from what I can tell.

It is (obviously) your call as to if you think it'll be worth it.

? not sure what's you mean, but there's plenty of nuance in mens rea, possession, and other areas. dressler is great for all of it, though.

My crim exam (100 MC questions) is basically all about nuances. :| You can know all the basic BLL but most questions are "what is the best/worst option", with no clear answer unless you spend 5 minutes reading Dressler while you do the question haha.

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Postby Jsa725 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:51 am

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Postby Birdnals » Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:52 am

Does anybody have some solid Crim practice tests with MPC as the core background law but with statutes that require statutory interpretation?

Like questions that start with "This district follows the MPC, however these are the relevant statutes"?

I would be able to trade exams in pretty much every other subject ever.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby SportsFan » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:01 am

Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:My crim exam (100 MC questions) is basically all about nuances. :| You can know all the basic BLL but most questions are "what is the best/worst option", with no clear answer unless you spend 5 minutes reading Dressler while you do the question haha.

that sux...just memorize dressler, bro :shock: :arrow: :wink: :arrow: :D

Haha yeah, I'm trying. Its a bit annoying because I have to reconcile it with my professors own thoughts on the common law (he seems to generally prefer the MPC, but we still have to know both). The only good thing is everyone in my section feels the same way (that the exam is going to be ridiculous) and everyone is at least a little worried about what their grade is gonna be.

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Postby Jsa725 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:06 am

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Postby SportsFan » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:09 am

Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:My crim exam (100 MC questions) is basically all about nuances. :| You can know all the basic BLL but most questions are "what is the best/worst option", with no clear answer unless you spend 5 minutes reading Dressler while you do the question haha.

that sux...just memorize dressler, bro :shock: :arrow: :wink: :arrow: :D

Haha yeah, I'm trying. Its a bit annoying because I have to reconcile it with my professors own thoughts on the common law (he seems to generally prefer the MPC, but we still have to know both). The only good thing is everyone in my section feels the same way (that the exam is going to be ridiculous) and everyone is at least a little worried about what their grade is gonna be.

I feel ya... studying for my last 2 exams today (maybe a little tomorrow)... then focusing on my first two for the bulk of the week.
my civ pro is open book and the teacher basically told us what to expect... I am now worried about grades b/c everyone will also know whats coming down the pike and I want to get that A! fuuuuuuuuck

I've said it a bunch in this topic, but pre-write your answers. Gonna be even easier know if you know what topics to expect. Pre-write all the rules for the topics that'll be on it, and make sure to include all the possible forks so as you write the rules on the exam, you can really quickly/easily spot the forks in the law in the fact pattern.

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Postby Jsa725 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:19 am

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Postby SportsFan » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:26 am

Jsa725 wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
Jsa725 wrote:I feel ya... studying for my last 2 exams today (maybe a little tomorrow)... then focusing on my first two for the bulk of the week.
my civ pro is open book and the teacher basically told us what to expect... I am now worried about grades b/c everyone will also know whats coming down the pike and I want to get that A! fuuuuuuuuck

I've said it a bunch in this topic, but pre-write your answers. Gonna be even easier know if you know what topics to expect. Pre-write all the rules for the topics that'll be on it, and make sure to include all the possible forks so as you write the rules on the exam, you can really quickly/easily spot the forks in the law in the fact pattern.

haha... im retarded... my civ pro is closed book, have no idea why i wrote open! FML

Ah, that changes things a bit haha. My crim final is closed book too. :(

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Postby Jsa725 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:07 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby smaug_ » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:26 pm

soj wrote:
hibiki wrote:
Bronck wrote:I'm tempted to not do the rest of the readings (Complicity, or w/e) and just OL from Dressler for that section instead. Thoughts?


Might not be a bad idea. That said, complicity and conspiracy are like the only things with any semblance of nuance in Crim, from what I can tell.

It is (obviously) your call as to if you think it'll be worth it.

? not sure what's you mean, but there's plenty of nuance in mens rea, possession, and other areas. dressler is great for all of it, though.


Good point wrt mens rea. I guess I just mean that in terms of the major, top level bullet items we studied, complicity and conspiracy were the only ones that made me go "huh?" and have to think about what is being said. You might be able to have a nuanced discussion about the differences between knowing and reckless scienter requirements, but those don't strike me as odd as unilateral conspiracy or the Pinkerton rule. Maybe I'm alone in that, though.

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Postby gabewatch » Sat Apr 20, 2013 3:53 pm

Hey All I've heard a lot of good things about CALI lessons and as exams begin in 10 days and I've worked through supplements I'm looking to broaden my horizons. The thing is my school is one of the few that doesn't have a CALI subscription for some reason.

Anyone out there want to PM me their username and PW for some brief usage? I would be really grateful...

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Postby Raiden » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:03 pm

Guys/Gals: gather around, I have to share a zen moment -

Trying to understand certain law => search cases that discuss the law in Lexis/Westlaw => understand law => profit.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

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Postby Redamon1 » Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:59 pm

Raiden wrote:Guys/Gals: gather around, I have to share a zen moment -

Trying to understand certain law => search cases that discuss the law in Lexis/Westlaw => understand law => profit.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.


Try this also: re-read the actual case from that class session in your casebook. I'm not being sarcastic. The court will sometimes do a nice breakdown of the doctrine. It actually helped me grasp UCC 2-207 today. You realize you were kind of clueless the first time you read the case.

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Postby SportsFan » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:05 am

Redamon1 wrote:
Raiden wrote:Guys/Gals: gather around, I have to share a zen moment -

Trying to understand certain law => search cases that discuss the law in Lexis/Westlaw => understand law => profit.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.


Try this also: re-read the actual case from that class session in your casebook. I'm not being sarcastic. The court will sometimes do a nice breakdown of the doctrine. It actually helped me grasp UCC 2-207 today. You realize you were kind of clueless the first time you read the case.

I don't do it often, but every time I've re-read a case, I've understood it SO MUCH BETTER. Problem is, IMO there are very few cases that you actually need to understand that well.

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Postby SportsFan » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:11 am

Today was the last day of my "general studying". Two days before my first final, and 2 days before each of the next, so I'm switching to (almost) exclusively prepping for the next exam. I feel pretty good about 2 classes, 1 could go either way, and the last (crim) everyone in my section knows is gonna be a shitshow.

Whole semester comes down to these next 2 weeks... CSWS.

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Postby Lacepiece23 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:17 am

SportsFan wrote:Today was the last day of my "general studying". Two days before my first final, and 2 days before each of the next, so I'm switching to (almost) exclusively prepping for the next exam. I feel pretty good about 2 classes, 1 could go either way, and the last (crim) everyone in my section knows is gonna be a shitshow.

Whole semester comes down to these next 2 weeks... CSWS.


good luck my man, lucky to be done so much earlier then all of us. I still got like 12 days until my first final or something like that with a brutal 3 days in between each.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby laxbrah420 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:47 am

Anyone have a conlaw outline that reflects nfib v. Sebelius changes?

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Postby gaud » Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:51 am

laxbrah420 wrote:Anyone have a conlaw outline that reflects nfib v. Sebelius changes?


<--- Would also be interested

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Redamon1 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:32 am

SportsFan wrote:
Redamon1 wrote:
Raiden wrote:Guys/Gals: gather around, I have to share a zen moment -

Trying to understand certain law => search cases that discuss the law in Lexis/Westlaw => understand law => profit.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.


Try this also: re-read the actual case from that class session in your casebook. I'm not being sarcastic. The court will sometimes do a nice breakdown of the doctrine. It actually helped me grasp UCC 2-207 today. You realize you were kind of clueless the first time you read the case.

I don't do it often, but every time I've re-read a case, I've understood it SO MUCH BETTER. Problem is, IMO there are very few cases that you actually need to understand that well.


I agree. I've only done this a few times per semester on the really complex issues.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby laxbrah420 » Sun Apr 21, 2013 3:02 am

hibiki wrote:
soj wrote:
hibiki wrote:
Bronck wrote:I'm tempted to not do the rest of the readings (Complicity, or w/e) and just OL from Dressler for that section instead. Thoughts?


Might not be a bad idea. That said, complicity and conspiracy are like the only things with any semblance of nuance in Crim, from what I can tell.

It is (obviously) your call as to if you think it'll be worth it.

? not sure what's you mean, but there's plenty of nuance in mens rea, possession, and other areas. dressler is great for all of it, though.


Good point wrt mens rea. I guess I just mean that in terms of the major, top level bullet items we studied, complicity and conspiracy were the only ones that made me go "huh?" and have to think about what is being said. You might be able to have a nuanced discussion about the differences between knowing and reckless scienter requirements, but those don't strike me as odd as unilateral conspiracy or the Pinkerton rule. Maybe I'm alone in that, though.

We didn't do conspiracy but keeping accomplice shit straight is the only hard thing about crim I've found. Mpc, old cl, modern cl all entirely different with no real pattern dividing them except the understanding that mpc is obsessed with retributivism/punishin only culpable/and all culpable. I'd read the cases. Also not sure if you have the dresser casebook but the innocent instrumentality CB radio case is truly hilarious (like not even law school shit standard for humor but a story good enough to tell at a party...)

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Postby Nova » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:59 am

No more drinking for the semester :shock: :| :mrgreen:




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