OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby 005618502 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:46 pm

SportsFan wrote:Feeling a bit burnt out today. Finished up my reading for the week but got about 20 minutes into a practice exam and just don't have the motivation to do any more. Think I'll take the rest of the day off and try to play video games, watch, and relax so I can go hard all week.


That happened to me yesterday. It was nice to take a break. 1 week from tomorrow is my first test. Damn scary

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby minnbills » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:53 pm

laxbrah420 wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:
minnbills wrote:ok I need to get it together. All I did today was review my contracts outline. First final in 10 days. Get. it. together.


At least you have a contracts outline :oops:

I decided that making your own outline is a huge flame


I mean, you shouldn't have to actually use the outline. It's the review process, putting it all together, etc. that's helpful.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby ArtVandelayy » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:59 pm

Anyone have a Crim Law attack outline (preferably based on Dressler)?

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Postby Jsa725 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:20 pm

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Postby rbomb » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:28 pm

ArtVandelayy wrote:Anyone have a Crim Law attack outline (preferably based on Dressler)?



Care to make a trade for any Crim Law PTs? Hopefully MCQs?

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby SportsFan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:29 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:
SportsFan wrote:Feeling a bit burnt out today. Finished up my reading for the week but got about 20 minutes into a practice exam and just don't have the motivation to do any more. Think I'll take the rest of the day off and try to play video games, watch, and relax so I can go hard all week.


That happened to me yesterday. It was nice to take a break. 1 week from tomorrow is my first test. Damn scary

Same. Luckily my first exam is the one I feel best about, so HOPEFULLY it'll go well and put me in a good mood for the rest of my finals...
minnbills wrote:
laxbrah420 wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:
minnbills wrote:ok I need to get it together. All I did today was review my contracts outline. First final in 10 days. Get. it. together.


At least you have a contracts outline :oops:

I decided that making your own outline is a huge flame


I mean, you shouldn't have to actually use the outline. It's the review process, putting it all together, etc. that's helpful.

IMO creating attack outlines helped just as much as creating my original outline in terms of fitting everything together, though creating the outline did help me learn the law a bit.

I'm curious, though, about how much people actually do end up using their outlines on exams. In the practice tests I've taken so far, I've looked through mine a lot (IMO, anyway; guess its hard to really say what 'a lot' is), mostly just because so far I don't have most of the law memorized (starting to get on that now, though). I guess once I do have most of the law memorized I won't need to bother looking through it...

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby LetsGoLAW » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:58 pm

On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?

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Postby Jsa725 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:05 pm

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Postby SportsFan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:15 pm

LetsGoLAW wrote:On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?

I barely bother with cause in fact (like 3-4 sentences at the most) unless its one that requires substantial factor analysis.

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Postby ru2486 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:16 pm

checking in, super fucked, no motivation, but doing work anyways

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Postby gaud » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:17 pm

Jsa725 wrote:
LetsGoLAW wrote:On Torts PTs, do you have a lot of analysis under "cause in fact?" Or mostly proximate cause?


more is in PC

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Postby noleknight16 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:34 pm

I think it's worth searching for a defendant's response to but-for causation and throw some back and forth.

"Plaintiff will say but for... blah blah blah . Defendant will say even if I hadn't done... blah blah blah... the accident still would have happened."

Also worth bringing up preponderance of evidence being the standard for the but-for causation.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Blumpbeef » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:00 pm

I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

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Postby SportsFan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:08 pm

Blumpbeef wrote:I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby crumpetsandtea » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:15 pm

Took my professor's 2009 K Midterm as a PT today...FML wow that sucked. I've done 3 torts exams so far that have been decent, and Civ Pro is going alright, but Crim and Ks? Holy shiiiit FML.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby gaud » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:29 pm

SportsFan wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.


My K professor skipped SOF. :roll:

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Blumpbeef » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:33 pm

SportsFan wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.


We didn't study damages either.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby SportsFan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:34 pm

gaud wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.


My K professor skipped SOF. :roll:

So did mine. Confused a bunch of people in my section a few weeks ago when we all finally realized it exists haha. Still, I would view skipping PC as more similar to skipping Offers than skipping SOF.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Blumpbeef » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:39 pm

I asked the TA about it and he said "proximate cause is assumed on all your hypotheticals, so you won't have to analyze it."

I guess it's like saying "assume all contracts exist and are enforceable"

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Dead Parrot » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:45 pm

gaud wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
Blumpbeef wrote:I can't believe we didn't learn PC in our torts class.

I accidentally the chapter on it though so I might mention it on the exam to see if he throws anything my way.

How does that even happen?! Lol.


My K professor skipped SOF. :roll:


My professor went over for 10 minutes, called it the statute for frauds, and then said don't address it on the exam unless obvious.

Finals start tomorrow for me. CSWS

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Blumpbeef » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:52 pm

My K's professor skipped literally nothing :(

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Postby brotherdarkness » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:59 pm

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby LetsGoLAW » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:05 pm

One "but for" cause - Actual cause established
Two "but for" causes, one necessary, one necessary and sufficient - Move to proximate cause
Two "but for" causes, both sufficient to cause the damage - Use substantial factor test
One "but for" cause, but multiple parties - Shift the burden

Correct? Torts is driving me wild. If anyone needs any assistance on Ks, Dressler crim, or Prop, I have anything.
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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby Blumpbeef » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:06 pm

I'll take property tests/answers if anyones got em.

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Re: OFFICIAL 1L Exam Prep & Motivation Thread (CSWS)

Postby SportsFan » Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:13 pm

LetsGoLAW wrote:One "but for" cause - Actual cause established
Two "but for" causes - Use substantial factor test
One "but for" cause, but multiple parties - Shift the burden

Correct? Torts is driving me wild. If anyone needs any assistance on Ks, Dressler crim, or Prop, I have anything.

The way my torts professor taught it is that you only use substantial factor in three situations:

Either cause alone would have produced the identical result
Either cause alone would have produced a similar result
The defendant made a clearly proven but quite insignificant contribution to the result

Obviously if your professor taught is differently, do what your professor said. I got the impression mine doesn't really like substantial factor much.




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