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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby Dany » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:21 am

Bronte wrote:
Dany wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:Lol at using a "pass" every time. I didn't have a single 1L class that even let people pass.

The rest of the advice is equally bad.

Technically all of them let you pass if you just refuse to answer the question.


So are you of the opinion that a professor does not have the power to ding you for participation reasons? I think you're trippin if you think a professor who has told the class "no passes" is just going to roll over if you try to pass every time she calls on you.

I had a professor that said "no passes" at the beginning of the semester, and one day a girl tried to take a pass. He flipped shit and, of course, cold called her again the next day. If she had said "pass" again, do you think the professor would have just said, "Oh, well, TLS says participation doesn't matter, so I guess there's nothing I can do here"?

I said nothing of the sort.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby Bronte » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:29 am

Dany wrote:I said nothing of the sort.


I guess I don't know what you're saying then. First, I said you're going to get dinged for taking a pass every time. You then said:

Dany wrote:Maybe this happens to be true for whatever school you're at, but it is definitely not true everywhere.


Then Bildungsroman scoffed at the notion of passing every time, noting that his professors don't allow passing. You said:

Dany wrote:Technically all of them let you pass if you just refuse to answer the question.


Do you or do you not think that there's a nonnegligible probability of getting dinged if you refuse to answer every time you're called on?

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby Dany » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:39 am

Bils and I go to the same school, and I was making a joke, so first of all *woosh*

Second, I had classes where I didn't answer cold calls and my grade wasn't affected. YOU said that at every school it would jeopardize your grade.

I don't really care about OP's idea and it's probably bad, just pointing out that your absolute was over the top.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby Bronte » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:33 pm

Dany wrote:Bils and I go to the same school, and I was making a joke, so first of all *woosh*

Second, I had classes where I didn't answer cold calls and my grade wasn't affected. YOU said that at every school it would jeopardize your grade.

I don't really care about OP's idea and it's probably bad, just pointing out that your absolute was over the top.


Yeah. I think it's safe to say there's a significant probability you'll get dinged if refuse to answer any cold calls 1L year. Said it too strongly the first time.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby 09042014 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:56 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:Lol at using a "pass" every time. I didn't have a single 1L class that even let people pass.

The rest of the advice is equally bad.


Rigor!

I fessed up in several 1L classes that I hadn't read. Profs didn't hold it against me.

I tried taking a "raincheck" during 2L and the professor accepted and called on me the next day.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby rickgrimes69 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:15 pm

FWIW, I'm 1L at a lower T14 and participation is actually a not-insignificant part of my grade in every class. You probably won't be dinged if you rock the final regardless of your participation, but it functions as a sort of insurance policy should you flame out - profs will award up to a 0.3 GPA boost to active participant they feel under-performed on the final exam.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby lustre_mud » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:22 pm

Bildungsroman wrote:Lol at using a "pass" every time. I didn't have a single 1L class that even let people pass.

The rest of the advice is equally bad.


exactly. my profs would have kicked my ass if i tried to pass.

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Re: Time-Saving Tips for 1L's

Postby AVBucks4239 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:08 pm

From my experience, asking for a pass or being completely unprepared and sounding like you didn't even take the time to read a brief meant you were going to get called on for the next 2-4 lectures.

Different strokes for different folks, but the fallacy with OP is that class preparation, when done correctly, is actually helping you prepare for the final as well.




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