Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

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Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby ajaxconstructions » Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:17 pm

For the worse. How much does this hurt? Big as in like .3 or more.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby gokumax » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:09 am

Depends on the numbers.

For example if you had a 2.3 1st semester, and 2.0 this semester, and median at your school is 3.0 or something, then the drop in grades won't hurt, because your grades were already so low.

But if you went from, say 3.3 to a 3.0, it might make more of a difference.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby ajaxconstructions » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:11 am

Going from top 10% to like median or slightly above.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby PlessFightsFire » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:21 am

I mean it makes the difference of wherever you are now. If you were top 10 and now your top 25% then your prospects are those of someone in the top 25%. If you had something horrible happen in your personal life or something maybe you could paint it that way but you would have to get in the room first

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby ajaxconstructions » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:05 am

That's good news then.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby 5ky » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:08 am

Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby NotMyRealName09 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:14 am

5ky wrote:Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.


Generally, but I don't know. If you want to litigate but got a C in Civ Pro? That matters, big time.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby Wooostl2012 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:21 am

NotMyRealName09 wrote:
5ky wrote:Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.


Generally, but I don't know. If you want to litigate but got a C in Civ Pro? That matters, big time.


I think getting a C in anything would matter, even surrounded by A's, but I somehow doubt the particular class matters. Civ Pro the class has basically nothing to do with what a litigator is going to do for the first several years (at a big firm), and even if it did, I think a firm is more likely to attribute it to some fluke/failure to prepare/professor's style than some inherent inability to learn the concepts.

I think a C in contracts probably raises as many red flags for them as Civ Pro. So yeah, it matters big time, but why the hell would it matter that it's civ pro?

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby KMaine » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:28 am

NotMyRealName09 wrote:
5ky wrote:Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.


Generally, but I don't know. If you want to litigate but got a C in Civ Pro? That matters, big time.[/quote]

Don't give advice if you have no idea what you are talking about.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby AVBucks4239 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:48 pm

Wooostl2012 wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:
5ky wrote:Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.


Generally, but I don't know. If you want to litigate but got a C in Civ Pro? That matters, big time.


I think getting a C in anything would matter, even surrounded by A's, but I somehow doubt the particular class matters. Civ Pro the class has basically nothing to do with what a litigator is going to do for the first several years (at a big firm), and even if it did, I think a firm is more likely to attribute it to some fluke/failure to prepare/professor's style than some inherent inability to learn the concepts.

I think a C in contracts probably raises as many red flags for them as Civ Pro. So yeah, it matters big time, but why the hell would it matter that it's civ pro?

Can anybody verify whether a C in any particular class matters? This post says the particular class matters, then says a C in contracts might raise red flags. I'm confused (especially since I bombed contracts).

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby NotMyRealName09 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:30 pm

KMaine wrote:
NotMyRealName09 wrote:
5ky wrote:Cumulative GPA is what matters by far.


Generally, but I don't know. If you want to litigate but got a C in Civ Pro? That matters, big time.[/quote]

Don't give advice if you have no idea what you are talking about.[/b]

So enlighten me, oh short but derisive one. Tell me about your litigation practice experience, and how litigation hiring partners faced with equal resumes won't look to the relevant doctrinal classes to distinguish applicants. :roll:

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby Detrox » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:56 pm

Cumulative GPA is the thing that matters most. Specific doctrinal class grades may matter as tiebreakers or if you are seeking to join a specific practice area and you have a terrible/great grade in that area. Specific doctrinal class grades can definitely matter for clerkships but which classes are important will depend on the judge.

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Re: Big difference between 1st + 2nd Sem Grades

Postby r6_philly » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:02 pm

NotMyRealName09 wrote:
So enlighten me, oh short but derisive one. Tell me about your litigation practice experience, and how litigation hiring partners faced with equal resumes won't look to the relevant doctrinal classes to distinguish applicants. :roll:


I am doing trial work almost exclusively for this summer, and my civ pro is almost irrelevant to the work. Civ pro was also my lowest grade.




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