Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

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Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby jjlaw » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:26 pm

All of my exams this semester are open book, so my guess is that everyone is going to spot the major issues and know the rules, and grades will depend on the sophistication of analysis. I got median-pwned last semester, but I feel like I took a much different approach this semester, and can do better than I did last time. But my fear is, hasn't everyone else learned their lessons as well? My question is, how do i outrun my classmates from the axe murderer in the woods?

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby WolfmansBrother » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:34 pm

2L at Top 30. I went from top 25%ish to top 5% 1L Fall to 1L Spring.

1st semester, B+, B+, A-, 2nd Semester A, A, A-, A-

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby acrossthelake » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:35 pm

In terms of grades, due to the curve the net difference will be 0. Profs say that 2nd semester exams are generally higher in quality than 1st semester exams.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby blurbz » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:41 pm

Some try harder, some are complacent, some give up, some do the same thing they did last semester.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Bronte » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:54 pm

I got better grades second semester despite the fact that I felt really burned out and didn't feel like I worked as hard. I don't think there's any quantifiable difference. Just give it what you can and enjoy your summer.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Lawquacious » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:58 pm

I went downhill brah

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby rad lulz » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:02 pm

The difference between first and second semester for me was .4 GPA points. So some people had to do worse. I'd bet the quality of exams is better in the aggregate though.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby jjlaw » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:11 pm

So basically, everyone is going to improve, some will not, and whether we move up in rank is really just based on the luck of the draw in terms of classmates. <3 law school (good bye OCI)

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby rad lulz » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:16 pm

jjlaw wrote:So basically, everyone is going to improve, some will not, and whether we move up in rank is really just based on the luck of the draw in terms of classmates. <3 law school (good bye OCI)

My improvement put me in a great position for OCI, so hopefully you can do the same.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Sapientia » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:39 pm

ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby beachbum » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:41 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester


It must be tough.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Ludo! » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:42 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester


I hope this is sarcastically making fun of some douche in your class or something

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby blurbz » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:43 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester



Image


Edit: Ludo beat me to it.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby pinkcamellia » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:44 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester


gee that sounds horrible

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby bdubs » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:45 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester


I hope this is sarcastically making fun of some douche in your class or something


Sadly if this person is at a TTTT, TTT, or maybe even a TT then maintaining that 4.0 may be their only ticket out of the jobless hellhole that they chose to study law at.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Cupidity » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:45 pm

The curve doesn't change at all. While you'd expect that people would improve, the smart get cocky and lazy, some of the middle and bottom give up, and many well meaning students who genuinely work harder take the wrong message from their first semester grades and use that extra effort unproductively.

I'm not saying you can't improve, but if the median grade in first semester was 60-70 points scored on an open book exam, the median second semester will be about the same.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby 2transferornot » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:53 pm

I'm guessing part of the reason could be that some 1L subjects can be vastly different from others. Like Property and Crim Law?

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby woeisme » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:59 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester


yeah, that sucks. sorry.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Sapientia » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:05 am

Thanks for the support, everyone.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby ryegye87 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:15 am

jjlaw wrote:All of my exams this semester are open book, so my guess is that everyone is going to spot the major issues and know the rules, and grades will depend on the sophistication of analysis. I got median-pwned last semester, but I feel like I took a much different approach this semester, and can do better than I did last time. But my fear is, hasn't everyone else learned their lessons as well? My question is, how do i outrun my classmates from the axe murderer in the woods?



Who cares? Worrying about how everyone else will do won't affect your grades whatsoever. You are the only one in control of that. Just concentrate on what's coming up, do your best, and the rest will take care of itself. Don't fall into the trap of "Am I doing enough?" Only you can know the answer to that.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Ludo! » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:01 pm

Sapientia wrote:Thanks for the support, everyone.


You really thought somebody would support you for complaining about having a 4.0? Do you want to tell us how hard it is to be good looking and rich too?

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby SammyJ » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:43 pm

Come on guys, this has to be a joke... Right?

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby shredderrrrrr » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:50 pm

Ludovico Technique wrote:
Sapientia wrote:Thanks for the support, everyone.


You really thought somebody would support you for complaining about having a 4.0? Do you want to tell us how hard it is to be good looking and rich too?


Lol pretty sure they're messing around.

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby Bless » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:46 pm

Sapientia wrote:ugh. It's awful having a 4.0. The best I can do is the same as last semester. Most likely, it will be worse. I wish I would have done worse so I'd have room to improve this semester

plz exit the site

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Re: Do 2nd semester 1L's really improve a lot?

Postby shock259 » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:09 am

I'm scared my grades are going to plummet. DOWN TO THE MEDIAN I GO.




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