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how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:44 pm
by bartleby
i got about 25 classmates in my class. teacher gives 1 A and 2 A- i think.

i've sunk a solid 24 hours (3 days) of research and writing.

someone just told me they've worked on it for weeks.

it is due monday. i'm not stressing but how much time did you put into your brief

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:48 pm
by DCDuck
They probably weren't putting 8 hours a day into the appellate brief for weeks.
Everyone writes differently, so necessary time for a good product differs widely between people. LRW grades are also often largely subjective, especially when distinguishing between an A- paper and a B+ paper.

Stop worrying about what your classmates are doing and just do your best, which it sounds like you are doing.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:49 pm
by ilovesf
Sadly, much longer than that. And it is pass/fail. I spent a long time on it because I didn't understand what I was supposed to be writing about.. at all.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:51 pm
by spleenworship
Week and a half, 3-8 hours a day. And I still only expect to score median because after submission I realized I messed up nearly a third of my cites. Ugh.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:52 pm
by Flips88
Amount of work ≠ quality of work.

I know there are plenty of people in my section that sink way more time than is necessary on research. They spend hours upon hours looking for the perfect case that isn't out there. They pore over secondary sources and stuff that aren't helpful.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:52 pm
by bartleby
ilovesf wrote:Sadly, much longer than that. And it is pass/fail. I spent a long time on it because I didn't understand what I was supposed to be writing about.. at all.


this is how i feel. and mine is not pass/fail. i figure i will grind 10 hours to finish all the writing today and save a full day tomorrow to do all that technical bullshit. i read/outlined a head for mundays so i hope it'll be alright. so sad.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:04 pm
by reformed calvinist
None, I wrote the appellee brief.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:06 pm
by Extension_Cord
Wow, I put maybe 30 hours into it in total.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:10 pm
by beachbum
Our case was based on a case being argued in the Supreme Court. So the party briefs (and amicus briefs) were available online. This made research considerably easier.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:13 pm
by rad lulz
Like 3 days on the appellee brief, but 3 weeks on the appellant brief.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:14 pm
by ilovesf
beachbum wrote:Our case was based on a case being argued in the Supreme Court. So the party briefs (and amicus briefs) were available online. This made research considerably easier.

We only do Supreme Court cases, but it's against the honor code to look at any briefs online here.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:14 pm
by 094320
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Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:22 pm
by bartleby
ilovesf wrote:
beachbum wrote:Our case was based on a case being argued in the Supreme Court. So the party briefs (and amicus briefs) were available online. This made research considerably easier.

We only do Supreme Court cases, but it's against the honor code to look at any briefs online here.


holy shit i wonder if that's against our honor code. i emailed my prof about reading a brief.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:49 pm
by KMaine
Long enough to know what it is called.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:06 pm
by beachbum
ilovesf wrote:
beachbum wrote:Our case was based on a case being argued in the Supreme Court. So the party briefs (and amicus briefs) were available online. This made research considerably easier.

We only do Supreme Court cases, but it's against the honor code to look at any briefs online here.


That sucks. Our prof actually encouraged us to read the briefs to make sure we weren't missing anything.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:10 pm
by ilovesf
beachbum wrote:
ilovesf wrote:
beachbum wrote:Our case was based on a case being argued in the Supreme Court. So the party briefs (and amicus briefs) were available online. This made research considerably easier.

We only do Supreme Court cases, but it's against the honor code to look at any briefs online here.


That sucks. Our prof actually encouraged us to read the briefs to make sure we weren't missing anything.

Lucky :( What case did you do?

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:13 pm
by spleenworship
acrossthelake wrote:As much as I needed to feel like I wouldn't let my partner down.


Ugh. So glad we did ours alone. I hate group work.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:17 pm
by ap1987
Not enough apparently :cry:

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:33 pm
by adonai
Flips88 wrote:Amount of work ≠ quality of work.

I know there are plenty of people in my section that sink way more time than is necessary on research. They spend hours upon hours looking for the perfect case that isn't out there. They pore over secondary sources and stuff that aren't helpful.

I would like to echo this. Pulled an all-nighter on my draft (which had countless, careless errors), and got a way higher score than others who were putting in hours everyday for the month before it was due. Not really fair, but it's all subjective grading as someone else said and there's nothing you can really do about it. That being said, I probably spent a total of 20 hours combined.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:41 pm
by InnocuousDiatribe
57 hours, 15 minutes, more-or-less evenly spaced over a 4-week period.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:45 pm
by ben4847
I more or less spent most of my time doing it, from when it was assigned to when it was due. It paid off also.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:05 am
by turbotong
I spent too long.
It is due tuesday for me and I have no motivation at all to write it.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:54 am
by crossarmant
Flips88 wrote:Amount of work ≠ quality of work.

I know there are plenty of people in my section that sink way more time than is necessary on research. They spend hours upon hours looking for the perfect case that isn't out there. They pore over secondary sources and stuff that aren't helpful.


+1

I spent two days with about 16 hours each day, plus probably about 12 other hours scattered over a few weeks. Yes, I procrastinated a lot. Did my research early and wrote much later. After we received about 4 other appellate briefs from classmates to prep us for oral arguments, I don't feel like I did terrible.

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:17 pm
by Flips88
crossarmant wrote:
Flips88 wrote:Amount of work ≠ quality of work.

I know there are plenty of people in my section that sink way more time than is necessary on research. They spend hours upon hours looking for the perfect case that isn't out there. They pore over secondary sources and stuff that aren't helpful.


Calling bullshit.

I spent two days with about 16 hours each day, plus probably about 12 other hours scattered over a few weeks. Yes, I procrastinated a lot. Did my research early and wrote much later. After we received about 4 other appellate briefs from classmates to prep us for oral arguments, I don't feel like I did terrible.

How is this calling bullshit?

Re: how much time did you sink into your appellant brief

Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:52 pm
by bartleby
lol yeah, do you really think there aren't those guys out there? LAW SCHOOL SUCKS AHHHHHHHHHH