What is the most famous 1L case?

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What is the most famous 1L case?

Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad
83
31%
Hawkins v. McGee (Hairy Hand)
22
8%
Pennoyer v. Neff
39
15%
Marbury v. Madison (for those that are forced to take Con law)
51
19%
Pierson v. Post
21
8%
Erie Railroad v. Tompkins
39
15%
Regina v. Dudley and Stephens
10
4%
 
Total votes: 265

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What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby shoeshine » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:22 am

What is the most famous 1L case?

Please vote and name any I have missed so I can add them.
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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby dood » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:41 am

dudley stevens

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby buckilaw » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:44 am

palsgraf

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby flcath » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:47 am

Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby TatteredDignity » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:51 am

flcath wrote:Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.


he didn't ask for the most infamous case

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby romothesavior » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:51 am

I voted Hawkins. The Paper Chase made it more famous than the rest.

The carbolic smoke ball and barren cow cases also stuck with me for some reason.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby shoeshine » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:53 am

Well I accidentally cleared the results when I added Regina v. Dudley and Stevens so vote again. :evil: I wont add anymore.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby TatteredDignity » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:04 am

romothesavior wrote:I voted Hawkins. The Paper Chase made it more famous than the rest.

The carbolic smoke ball and barren cow cases also stuck with me for some reason.


funny that you vote hawkins, given that de geest doesn't even do that case. made me feel like i missed something in my legal education when i watched paper chase recently.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby InnocuousDiatribe » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:34 am

I think they still teach the basics of Marbury v. Madison and McCullough v. Maryland in American history and government classes starting in Elementary or Middle school. At least, they did when I was a (edit--younger) kid.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Tanicius » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:56 am

flcath wrote:Pennoyer

The other cases (Erie, Palsgraff) actually stand for a legal principle, i.e., they are important to the legal industry as a whole. Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.


That's why I voted for it. Even Dudley is relevant when it's not even an American case.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 am

flcath wrote:Pennoyer is a confusing, bullshit case that's known only for its inexplicable inclusion in 1L Civ Pro courses.

Looks like somebody never got to Burnham.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby dabomb75 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:24 am

we didn't even do the hairy hands case in contracts.

I vote Erie just because I heard about it from before I had even started civ pro..."just wait until you get to Erie" type of comments from before day 1 of law school

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Cupidity » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:59 am

I vote Mottley. Up to the Supreme Court twice over a pair of Goddamned train tickets. How is that for vexatious litigation. When you get to Fed.Courts you find out that there is all kinds of other important stuff in the case.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby LawMan20 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:07 am

Haven't heard of/read any of them besides Marbury.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:08 am

LawMan20 wrote:Haven't heard of/read any of them besides Marbury.

How is that possible?

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby LoyalRebel » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:05 am

International Shoe, of course.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Mce252 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:17 am

How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby JusticeHarlan » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:25 am

Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.

I'm guessing you didn't understand Erie; Marbury has nothing to do with Pierson, Hawkings, Palsgraf, etc.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby 20130312 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:27 am

Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.


We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:30 am

InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.


We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.

Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby 20130312 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:36 am

Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.


We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.

Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.


wut

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Cupidity » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:40 am

InGoodFaith wrote:
Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
Mce252 wrote:How can it not be Marbury? None of those other cases would be nearly as important without it.


We're looking at famous, not important. The fact that I know all about the Palsgraf as a 0L gives it a little more famous status in my mind.

Two consecutive responses that RC failed the thread title. Nice.

And if we're talking about most important, then Martin v. Hunter's Lessee wins.


wut


He's right. You clearly haven't taken Fed.Courts.

Edit - The wut wasn't directed at Hunter's Lessee, was it?

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby Antilles Haven » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:41 am

InGoodFaith wrote:wut

Let me help you:

Thread Title wrote:most famous 1L case

InGoodFaith wrote:as a 0L

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby DocHawkeye » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:41 am

Hamer v. Sidway or Garrat v. Dailey?

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Re: What is the most famous 1L case?

Postby 20130312 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:50 am

Antilles Haven wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:wut

Let me help you:

Thread Title wrote:most famous 1L case

InGoodFaith wrote:as a 0L


So the case can no longer be described as a 1L case because the person referencing it isn't a 1L?




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