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stolli
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how to improve job prospects?

Postby stolli » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:02 pm

So, I'm a 1L at a T20 school, and the job market still sucks. Next year I will be able to pick my classes and have a lot more freedom to pursue clinics, externships etc....I love studying the law and don't really have a preference yet of what type of law I want to practice. It all seems interesting too me (for now).

Other then getting good grades (Right now I am almost top 1/3 and expect to be so by the end of this semester.) What can somebody like me do to improve their employment prospects at graduation. I know an internship for the summer is essential (I am in the process of securing one) as well as networking.

are there any legal fields that are doing better then others? Are there any particular classes that look good to employers? anything else i can do in the next two years that can benefit me?

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby bk1 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:03 pm

Network/Hustle

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby Blindmelon » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:55 am

bk1 wrote:Network/Hustle


This, and take easy classes. You can go from top 1/3rd to top 10% by the end of 3L. Even top 1/3rd to top 25% makes a big difference.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby Metaread » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:51 pm

How would you figure out which classes are easy? You can talk to other students, sure, but.

I'd recommend reaching out to alumni, though. The ones who have jobs are usually helpful and friendly.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby spleenworship » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:12 pm

Metaread wrote:How would you figure out which classes are easy? You can talk to other students, sure, but.

I'd recommend reaching out to alumni, though. The ones who have jobs are usually helpful and friendly.

My scool publishes grade curve by class and professor. If op's school does that, that could work.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby stolli » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:34 pm

looking at grade distribution is actually a great idea. Thanks:D

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby 20130312 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:37 pm

how to improve job prospects?


Transfer to HYS. HTH.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby dood » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:22 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
how to improve job prospects?


Transfer to HYS. HTH.


get a fucking MBA from HBS.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby 20130312 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:31 pm

dood wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
how to improve job prospects?


Transfer to HYS. HTH.


get a fucking MBA from HBS.


TITCR

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby wildhaggis » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:58 pm

Aside from the obvious (grades): networking, hustling, and learning how to interview well is TCR.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby stolli » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:54 pm

yes, i know the general ways to make yourself marketable. this isnt really specic to the legal field,. hustling/interviewing/grades are the main criteria wherever you go. I was asking more about specific little things that can improve marketability (such as taking certain classes/clincs having externships...stuff like that)

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby spleenworship » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:58 pm

stolli wrote:yes, i know the general ways to make yourself marketable. this isnt really specic to the legal field,. hustling/interviewing/grades are the main criteria wherever you go. I was asking more about specific little things that can improve marketability (such as taking certain classes/clincs having externships...stuff like that)


I have heard clinics and externships can lead to jobs.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby BarbellDreams » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:51 pm

Load up your resume with stuff others dont have. Clinics, internships during the year, journals, moot court, mock trial, etc.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby wildhaggis » Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:01 pm

The "general things" are mentioned as often as they are because they are the most (and really only) important things. A Westlaw "black belt" isn't going to get your foot in the door somewhere, and firms aren't going to place an enormous amount of value on whatever externship you had. Get the best grades you can, try to get a legal job somewhere after your 1L year, and work with a career counselor to make your resume, writing sample, etc., etc., as air-tight as it can possibly be.

Interviewing skills are a fantastic way to separate yourself from you classmates and can make a world of difference. Again: learning how to interview really well can make a huge, huge difference.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby Yvonnella » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:54 am

Excellent advice above. I would add, learn the difference between then and than. Some attention to the difference between to and too will also help you along the way.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby morris248 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:23 am

Interviewing skills are a fantastic way to separate yourself from you classmates and can make a world of difference. Again: learning how to interview really well can make a huge, huge difference.


Making a good first impression can be more important than being in the top 10%.

Look for opportunities to do pro bono work that will put you in contact with local attorneys and judges.
Getting a job still depends on who you know.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby spleenworship » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:29 pm

Yvonnella wrote:Excellent advice above. I would add, learn the difference between then and than. Some attention to the difference between to and too will also help you along the way.


Yes, and always take the time to point out people's grammar mistakes in casual conversation. Nothing says "I'm a fun employee!" like grammar correction outside of formal editing.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby Yvonnella » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:08 pm

spleenworship wrote:
Yvonnella wrote:Excellent advice above. I would add, learn the difference between then and than. Some attention to the difference between to and too will also help you along the way.


Yes, and always take the time to point out people's grammar mistakes in casual conversation. Nothing says "I'm a fun employee!" like grammar correction outside of formal editing.


I was sincerely trying to be helpful. The OP misapplied the word "then" twice in one brief post. This tells me that he or she is careless and/or may not be clear on the difference. People who are clear on the difference don't make that mistake often, and certainly not twice, even when writing casually on an internet forum. It looks illiterate. If you want to find a job as an attorney, little mistakes like that in a cover letter may tell prospective employers that you do not have the eye for detail that an attorney should have, and your fundamental command of the written language may be lacking. If this had been a casual conversation about which brand of beer drunken law students most favor when dumping it over each other's heads, I would not have said anything.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby GertrudePerkins » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:54 am

Yvonnella wrote:I was sincerely trying to be helpful. The OP misapplied the word "then" twice in one brief post. This tells me that he or she is careless and/or may not be clear on the difference. People who are clear on the difference don't make that mistake often, and certainly not twice, even when writing casually on an internet forum. It looks illiterate. If you want to find a job as an attorney, little mistakes like that in a cover letter may tell prospective employers that you do not have the eye for detail that an attorney should have, and your fundamental command of the written language may be lacking. If this had been a casual conversation about which brand of beer drunken law students most favor when dumping it over each other's heads, I would not have said anything.

+1
Feel free not to like this fact, but people judge you based on your writing. And if they're assessing whether to hire you as a lawyer, they damn well should.

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Re: how to improve job prospects?

Postby Zazelmaf » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:40 pm

You could try reading the tips on http://lawschoolfail.blogspot.com, which has some interesting advice.

Otherwise, visit career services, do internships all the time, meet people, and try to have fun learning the black letter law :)




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