Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L? Forum
- ben4847
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Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I figured with all the anecdotes of people climbing in the rankings second semester, there must be a commensurate number of people falling in the rankings.
So this thread is to post about how you went from top quarter to bottom quarter, or top 10% to bottom 10% or whatever. Then, you can also speculate why if you want to help people, and make sure those bottom feeders don't take their class rank.
My grades dropped a bit second semester. It was really all because of one class though, so I don't think I can read much into it.
So this thread is to post about how you went from top quarter to bottom quarter, or top 10% to bottom 10% or whatever. Then, you can also speculate why if you want to help people, and make sure those bottom feeders don't take their class rank.
My grades dropped a bit second semester. It was really all because of one class though, so I don't think I can read much into it.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
How much is a bit of a drop?
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I knew a guy who went from #1 to outside Top 10%. It happens. People go up. People go down.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
What did he do different?maf70 wrote:I knew a guy who went from #1 to outside Top 10%. It happens. People go up. People go down.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I'd like to see this thread get some action
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Went from top 10% down to top 25% (by getting all median grades in the spring). Not sure what was different. Walked out of spring exams even more confident.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
didn't have a significant drop, but i did drop a bit. i thought i had "figured it out" and thus the fear of failing subsided and i began to slack a bit. my advice is to not let yourself get overconfident - first semester is certainly the easier semester as far as competition goes. there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I dropped a bit second semester, but my grades were more "consistently good" if that makes any sense. I had the second highest grade in a class my first semester, which bolstered my GPA, whereas second semester I just was consistently in the same range. Still solid, just no great grades to give me that boost. All in all, it was a negligible drop. Only fell a couple percent overall.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Yes, but it had more to do with health issues than anything else.
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Thanks for this. I figured it would be similar to this.traehekat wrote:didn't have a significant drop, but i did drop a bit. i thought i had "figured it out" and thus the fear of failing subsided and i began to slack a bit. my advice is to not let yourself get overconfident - first semester is certainly the easier semester as far as competition goes. there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I had a 4.0 and rank 1 at a T2 first semester.
I had a 3.8X second semester due to 1 sub-A grade and that dropped me down a few ranks.
Most people who do well in the first semester will do well in the second semester. Some classes can throw a spanner in the works due to a unique professor/etc. Overall though, don't worry about it. If I studied half as much the second semester as I did the first, I probably would have done better
I had a 3.8X second semester due to 1 sub-A grade and that dropped me down a few ranks.
Most people who do well in the first semester will do well in the second semester. Some classes can throw a spanner in the works due to a unique professor/etc. Overall though, don't worry about it. If I studied half as much the second semester as I did the first, I probably would have done better
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I'm a 1L and worried about this too. Our first semester GPAs get adjusted at the end of the year when we get a grade for our year long legal writing course, and that's the class I'm doing the worst in (below median in that class vs. top 10% overall).
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I dropped a little because I got a bad grade in one class. It was a terrible professor who I hated so I barely ever went to class. The exam was 2/3 multiple choice, which I think is a stupid way to test in law school. Still stayed in top 5% though and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
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- romothesavior
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Doesn't sound lime you got a "bad" grade. Sounds like you got a good grade that was just a little lower than your other great grades.Ludovico Technique wrote:I dropped a little because I got a bad grade in one class. It was a terrible professor who I hated so I barely ever went to class. The exam was 2/3 multiple choice, which I think is a stupid way to test in law school. Still stayed in top 5% though and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Pretty much thisdesertlaw wrote:Went from top 10% down to top 25% (by getting all median grades in the spring). Not sure what was different. Walked out of spring exams even more confident.
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I guess so. It was below median though, so I count it as bad.romothesavior wrote:Doesn't sound lime you got a "bad" grade. Sounds like you got a good grade that was just a little lower than your other great grades.Ludovico Technique wrote:I dropped a little because I got a bad grade in one class. It was a terrible professor who I hated so I barely ever went to class. The exam was 2/3 multiple choice, which I think is a stupid way to test in law school. Still stayed in top 5% though and it didn't hurt me at OCI.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Too bad; it really got in your way of getting jobs come falldesertlaw wrote:Went from top 10% down to top 25% (by getting all median grades in the spring). Not sure what was different. Walked out of spring exams even more confident.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Interested in this as well.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I went up a little bit (top 20 to top 15%). I know people who went up and who went down some. Generally you won't make a significant change in either direction. It happens, but it's less common. Best of luck.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
I am in both these groups. There was a .4 difference between my first semester and second semester GPAs. Someone had to go down.traehekat wrote:there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
went from top third to median
don't have any idea why
looks like i'm probably staying there too. unless i get a good grade in the one class i haven't gotten a grade in yet. hahahahaha. hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
don't have any idea why
looks like i'm probably staying there too. unless i get a good grade in the one class i haven't gotten a grade in yet. hahahahaha. hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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- johansantana21
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Lol .4 difference, did you slack off?Grizz wrote:I am in both these groups. There was a .4 difference between my first semester and second semester GPAs. Someone had to go down.traehekat wrote:there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
No I went up. So I'm in the wrong thread.johansantana21 wrote:Lol .4 difference, did you slack off?Grizz wrote:I am in both these groups. There was a .4 difference between my first semester and second semester GPAs. Someone had to go down.traehekat wrote:there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Did you work harder? Or smarter? Or just same same and law school exams are bull.Grizz wrote:No I went up. So I'm in the wrong thread.johansantana21 wrote:Lol .4 difference, did you slack off?Grizz wrote:I am in both these groups. There was a .4 difference between my first semester and second semester GPAs. Someone had to go down.traehekat wrote:there likely be a large group of students who, although very smart, get blindsided because they dont really know what to expect in a law school exam. once they know whats up, they improve. other people who knew what was up but didn't work as hard will work harder. people just turn it up second semester and so you have to stay on top of your game.
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Re: Did your grades drop significantly 2nd semester of 1L?
Harder, plus figured out how to write better exams. Plus it helped that there were fewer multiple choice exams, which I am bad at.johansantana21 wrote:Did you work harder? Or smarter? Or just same same and law school exams are bull.Grizz wrote: No I went up. So I'm in the wrong thread.
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