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Re: below 3.0 at a t15. fml?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:41 pm
by delusional
so ambivalent wrote:
delusional wrote: If you want to be purely pragmatic, maybe dropping out is a good idea. If you still want to stay in law school because you like it aside from inexplicably doing poorly on exams, that is also reasonable.
what do you mean "purely pragmatic"? like, i will be unemployable without improvement?
Unemployable is a pretty absolute word, but apparently biglaw odds will be slim to none. But the world is not biglaw, despite what TLS thinks.

Re: below 3.0 at a t15. fml?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:47 pm
by sparty99
Why the hell would you drop out? If you would have performed better on your analysis (not too hard), you could have gotten three B+'s. You can easily get to median by the end of your 1L.

You need to talk with your professors, read model answers from law students, and read Getting to Maybe (the answers to exam questions) and Glannon's Torts E&E (the chapter on exams). If you do this, you will start to see what is needed on exams...If you received a B, you must be doing something right. I would guess most of your answers were conclusory. If you add more meat, you will see those B's into B+'s.

Re: below 3.0 at a t15. fml?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:17 am
by berkeleykel06
so ambivalent wrote:
berkeleykel06 wrote:
beach_terror wrote:Stick it out until the end of the year. You have your work cut out for you. Figure out what you're putting on your exams that's giving you the grades you're getting. It doesn't seem like an effort/studying problem so it's most likely an issue with your exam taking/writing. Luckily, it's not impossible to fix. Get in there and talk to all of your teachers, write down their suggestions and criticisms, and figure out a plan on how to rectify it before exams. Having a list of what you screwed up before will help you not make those mistakes again.
This, plus I would start seriously grooming your resume towards PI (if you haven't already) to keep your job options as broad as possible.
what exactly do you mean groom towards PI?
Join PI orgs, get a PI summer job, take PI oriented classes (mainly crim related ones), do pro bono work, etc. If your grades improve enough to give yourself a shot at a firm job you can leave the PI stuff off your resume, but if not you'll need those things for a PI org to take you seriously and not think you are using PI as a backup.

Re: below 3.0 at a t15. fml?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:26 am
by so ambivalent
berkeleykel06 wrote:
so ambivalent wrote:
berkeleykel06 wrote:
beach_terror wrote:Stick it out until the end of the year. You have your work cut out for you. Figure out what you're putting on your exams that's giving you the grades you're getting. It doesn't seem like an effort/studying problem so it's most likely an issue with your exam taking/writing. Luckily, it's not impossible to fix. Get in there and talk to all of your teachers, write down their suggestions and criticisms, and figure out a plan on how to rectify it before exams. Having a list of what you screwed up before will help you not make those mistakes again.
This, plus I would start seriously grooming your resume towards PI (if you haven't already) to keep your job options as broad as possible.
what exactly do you mean groom towards PI?
Join PI orgs, get a PI summer job, take PI oriented classes (mainly crim related ones), do pro bono work, etc. If your grades improve enough to give yourself a shot at a firm job you can leave the PI stuff off your resume, but if not you'll need those things for a PI org to take you seriously and not think you are using PI as a backup.
gotcha. and that's already done and done since PI is what i've always been going for anyway. thanks:)